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  1. Prideofrodina has a great article on listbuilding, and I thought its appropriate for this thread. Pano does seem to lack a lot of the "best tools" for the job, especially for special-operations type missions. While PanO is the "best" in shooting/killing, other factions are not gimped as much in the killing department as I feel PanO is in the specialist department.
  2. PanO (Aquila shoulder panzerfaust on the model) was a misatke.
  3. And thats where the crux is. The whole pano stich in the back of the designers mind: "Nah, lets not give them anything resembling power/utility... its Pano for crying out loud! They've got BS15!" "Those uber point efficient linked fusiliers with B2 missile launchers and the swiss guards!" ... yeah. The whole faction is littered with this feel... Sooooo close to be useful, sooooo close. IE, I would argue people would take albedo friar sniper much more for 35pts vs the 30pt non-albedo.
  4. Why not give them rifle+lsg instead of combi+lsg then?
  5. Awesome... Knauf isnt available in ISS as far as I can see.
  6. Yay! Not just ISS! Good job CB, cudos!
  7. Above post x1000! Exactly, well said.
  8. Actually that was an "irony" that @Hachiman Taro tried to illustrate: That PanO players are whining about the faction being one-dimensional, and at the same time whining about Bolts, who are "toolboxy" (to him, for some reason).
  9. This discussion is going in circles... I think people who had things to say did, and I am in agreeing with many opinions which claim that pano is, unfortunately, one-dimensional and doesn't get as large of an access to the rules which are favorable (and undercosted) in the game while does get the (extra) access to those that are overpriced and anti-synergistic. I am sad about it, but I love the look of the faction and will continue to paint it and play it, hopeful to the future. I am still hopeful about some of the existing pano profiles which are already out and aren't going to receive change (as per Bostria) like bolts, aquila and many of the knights. Who knows. And probably start playing nomads more, to enjoy the flexibility and breadth of the game...
  10. Does anyone remember when Carlos mentioned bolts once and said "Wait until you see them, they will be awesome!" (or something along those lines) Oh, how hopeful I was... Why are they one of the best models in NCA?!?!?!? Whyyyyy? To me, the bolts are a choice when I want to be challenged. Not for "serious" play.
  11. Can someone explain a viable way to use a multi Aquila or Deva Lts?
  12. A combi rifle totting hi with some non-combat abilities i would call not shooty.
  13. And its al variation of the same thing: kill stuff dead. And, how does the fact of having multiple (many overpriced) choices of mostly destructive nature prove diversity? Dont get me wrong, some things you listed are specific to pano (and one or two other factions... but mostly pano). If BS15 is a pano thing then it should be undercosted like camo for ariadna or somoke/template warbands for haqq (and who ever else gets them). Then pano could take maybe one extra fighter unit to outclass the enemy and make the whole "firing" supremacy a viable tactic. But then, the kill missions would be unbalanced with pano.
  14. I am wondering how to fix the tikbalang... What to replace it with... But uhlan, I can live with!
  15. ORC repack?! haha thats lame