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  1. A primer on Tactical Armoured Gear operations TAGs are one the hallmarks of the Panoceania army list, but many people don’t run them as they think they are too many eggs in one basket or bad in ITS missions which promote scoring specialists over combat beatsticks. However personally I have found TAG usage to be very successful tactic in both direct action and specialist operations. With that in mind I am writing the following article to share some of my thoughts, tactics and ideas with my fellow Panoceania players so that I can hopefully inspire more of you to give the TAGs a run and crush our enemies. Firstly I feel is appropriate to separate our TAGs into two broad schools of thought, namely Main Battle TAGs (MBT, see what I did there?) and Light TAGs. MBT: This is the Jotum, Cutter, Dragoes and Squalo. They are heavily armed and armoured, with Multi-HMGs and other weaponry that gives them a serious edge in combat. Unlike the MBTs of other factions which are often 1 dimensional beatsticks each of these TAGs also brings a slightly different approach to the battlefield, with the Jotum emphasizing heavy armour and weapon utility, the Cutter being a terror to try and hit and able to move around the table with impunity, the Dragoes essentially being the last word in the game on firepower bar none and the Squalo being the alpha strike nightmare with its speculative fire. These TAGs operate as the spearhead of any assault; they dominate the game and often become the focus of the game itself. But they are not all powerful gods, they require proper support from the rest of the army, particularly given their large investment in points, SWC and orders, and therefore a list that includes them should be built around protecting them and covering their weaknesses, while letting them do the heaving lifting in terms of engaging the opponents troops. Light Tags: this Category includes the Tikbalang and the Uhlan for obvious reasons, but I am also including the Seraph in this class as personally I feel it operates more as a heavily armoured light TAG than a lightly armoured MBT, a distinction that dictates which targets it can engage and what its role on the tabletop is. The Panoceania light TAGs are unique in that they are all reasonably armoured (6/7) and carry pretty heavy weaponry when compared to the light TAGs of other factions. But what really makes the Panoceania light TAGs stand out from the crowd is their emphasis on movement and visibility. All three of the light TAGs have a special movement rule that means they are able to roam around the board at incredible speeds, either climbing over anything in their way, moving past and through the opponents lines as a camo marker or soaring gracefully through the air to bring death to the opponent from on high. This flexibility means that the light TAGs can choose when to engage the opponent, hiding in reactive and reaching out to strike the opponent from completely unexpected angles of attack in active, overwhelming sections of the opponents force, rather than the MBTs more aggressive reliance on the reactive turn for killing. They are a scalpel rather than a sledge hammer. From planning to action So far this has all been heavy on the philosophy of using TAGs and a little light on detail so lets take some steps to address that. Here is what you should try keep in mind when using your TAGs in a game of infinity. The first aspect of TAG usage to address is the identification and classification of threats in your opponent’s army list. Some of this requires an reasonably in depth knowledge of what the opponent potentially can have and an evaluation of what its likely to be, such as recognizing that Camo markers in a Yu Jing players deployment zone are likely Raiden, or the ones in an Ariadna players deployment zone are Spetznaz or Tank hunters. This is obviously easier in sectorial armies as they have limited options with only 1 or two potential profiles in these types of situations. Also being able to recognize your opponents SWC expenditure can give you a good idea on what such hidden options are likely equipped with. Also be aware of assault hackers AP+EXP weaponry and forces that are spamming lots of cheap AP small arms. Once the main threats to your TAG are identified you want to counter them as best you can. Ideally you achieve this by going first and killing them as quickly as possible. But this is not always possible, so deploying appropriately and supporting your TAG correctly is important. If you do not have first turn then you want to force your opponent to engage your support troops before he can get to your TAG. How you go about this depends on the threat. If for example you are worried about hackers using either camo to approach your TAG or fast cheap repeaters then make sure that you have deployed the TAG under the defensive net of your own hackers. If your opponent has to run a repeater up, use a kamau or similar hacker to “blackout” disable the comms equipment and prevent the opponent hacking through it. If they are using an infiltrating hacker then nab them with a killer hacking device as they go for your TAG. By forcing your opponent to deal with such roadblocks you force them to waste orders not completing the mission of crippling your TAG. A good trick if you are worried about hackers is to deploy a palbot linked to a machinist in base contact with your TAG. If the opponent Possesses your TAG then it is engaged with the palbot and cannot destroy your own force easily (electric pulse on the palbot is a good way to not damage either the TAG or the palbot) and possessed can be cancelled in your turn. If the opponent instead isolates your TAG as more experienced players are likely to do then you already have your engineer in position to repair it at the start of your turn. Also be aware of your flanks to defend your TAG from AD and attacks from behind, troops such as Auxila, Regular Minelayers and Krakots are good for initially protecting the TAG with their DTWs before you can park other troops on suppression fire. The next thing about TAGs you have to keep in mind is to not over extend with them, the idea is to use their 6 movement to move out and attack the opponent before pulling back into a position where your own troops are preventing the other guy from getting up close and personal with your TAG. You want to set up such that the opponent has to spend a lot of orders to get to the TAG without being forced to engage it head on. If you have a minelayer regular sitting behind your tag look at its back in suppression fire with a nasty surprise next to it, well it’s not easy for your opponent to get to it. Always angle your TAGs facing to maximize its coverage of the likely approaches to it, usually paying particular attention to the board edge as your other troops can probably cover the middle of the board effectively. When you park your TAG in reactive turn, make sure its positioned defensively but aggressively, covering firelanes your opponent HAS to cross usually this is overlooking over the objectives with a clear killzone of 12-24 in front of them is best, this way in suppression fire they are throwing dice back at the opponent and 3 dice at BS15 are good odds even against camo surprise shots, just try not to let them get your form outside 24, which will force you to break suppression and limit your defense. This trick works for everything but is also one of the best ways to defend against hackers by ensuring that if you are in suppression fire your opponents hacker has to contend with your BS15 face to face rolls against any hacking attempt. Also of note, use of Warning! to re-position the TAG without breaking suppression fire. Because of remote presence and their high armour values TAGS are particularly good at utilising the Warning! rule to turn and re-position themselves to face an enemy buy ignoring the initial attack and then kill the enemy unit in its next order. Basically you want to kill the opponents troops that are a threat to you in your turn, the set up and kill his troops that aren’t a threat in his turn. TAGs in ITS specialist missions So the above advice is all well and good, but apart from the brief mention regarding parking your TAG over an objective what should we be keeping in mind when playing specialist missions with a TAG? Well the first and probably most important thing is to not get kill fixated. See that above point about trying to kill the opponent in his turn, well when you do that you really limit his options and you can spend your active turn scoring your own objectives, once you cutdown 3-4 of the opponents orders in his first turn there is not a lot he can do in his second or third turns to prevent you scoring. With this in mind dont be afraid to leave your tags parked after turn 1 and spend orders button pushing. Your TAG is still doing its job even if you aren’t spending any active turn orders on it. Another Trick that is of particular interest in PanO is the recognition that your big S7 TAGs block LOF. So walk a Jotum or a Cutter or a Squalo up past an objective that the opponent has covered and even if you don’t kill all his ARO’s you then have the option to move your own specialist up to the objective without granting the opponent LOF. Even if your TAG unfortunately goes unconscious using such a maneuver he will not go prone and will still block LOF, meaning this is bonus points if the specialist moving for the objective is an engineer. As to the other big worry often brought up with TAGs, secure the HVT is a god send, with always having the option to take this classified it is incredibly easy to play long term with this in mind, plan your list for it and abuse it. Use the TAG to stomp over to the objective, park on top of it and claim it as yours. What this practically means is that a TAG is usually as effective at scoring as a model packing D-charges is, it’s even better in a lot of ways given that you are guaranteed to have the secure HVT classified objective if you so want. On a final note, TAGs are a very good shock and awe weapon, often times opponents will not be expecting to face them in a specialist ITS mission and will not have taken the tools to deal with it in abundance, or have much experience with using them. Couple this with the fact that models are only made public information as they are deployed, and you will often keep your TAG as your reserve, fielding one is often as much of a surprise to the opponent as HD or AD deployment. EDIT: If this post is liked is it possible for it to be stickied to the top of the page? who and how to I go about contacting someone to make that request?
  2. Okay, a quick question: I was writing up a list for Soldiers of Fortune and I decided to stick an Anaconda into my list, it being a great model that I own and really want to use, and the little 'ITS legal' sign changed from a green tick (okay to use) to a purple question mark. Apparently the Anaconda, despite being in the merc's list, is not legal for use in regular ITS games, even under the Soldiers of Fortune list. I feel that this is an oversight, but I may be wrong and if so is there a reason as I would like to use my Anaconda at some point and it seems to be a model without a list at the moment.
  3. So, in the new FAQ about hacking there is one new thing that confuses me, and if there is a clear answer I would love to know. 'Can you declare to the Gorgos TAG, Iguana TAG or Anaconda TAG as valid targets of the Hacking Program: Expel? No.' Ok, so I can see why the Gorgos is there (sort of, it doesn't have the manned skill so I cant see how it could be considered a valid target). But why are the Anaconda and Iguana not valid targets? As far as I can see they fulfil all of expels target requirements and don't have a rule that completely exempts them as targets. At first I thought that this has something to do with the evacuation device skill, as they are the tags that have it, but nothing in the skills rules exempts you from being expelled. (Yes, I know that the skill itself is non-hackable, but to me atleast I don't see why that stops a hacker from making the tag open up and dump out the pilot, the pilot gets in normally right?) TLDR - Why isn't the Anaconda/Iguana a valid target for expel? They are manned tags
  4. Something had bugged me lately Several days back, i start some discussion on general size of models with my friends for RPG campaigns. I heard that TAGs would be about 15 feet (or 4.5 meters) each or so at average, but after posessing a TAG myself (a Lizard) and borrowing my friends Guijia ( the newer one ), i found that those statement are Guijia are one of the biggest humanoid TAG, and it was about 67mm in height. Since today's LI troops are generally clocking at 35mm, it was hardly two times larger. After that, i always thought that TAGs are at best 3.5 meters (or a bit less than 12 feet) in height, counting that the average joes are at least 6 feet tall ( and infinity are in the real scale side of miniature games). How about you guys, any thoughts about it?
  5. Edit: Forgot to explain the name... Bousouzoku is a bike gang in Japanese. Yoroi refers to the O-Yoroi TAG. I'm a new JSA player and wanted to talk about the 300 point list I came up with. I tried it out in three games last night and really enjoyed how it ran. The list is: Japanese Sectorial Army ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 110 4 ASUKA KISARAGI Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) ARAGOTO Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 26) ARAGOTO Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 26) ARAGOTO Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 30) O-YOROI HMG + Heavy Flamethrower, CrazyKoalas / EXP CCW. (2 | 83) O-YOROI PILOT Contender / Pistol, CCW. () YURIKO ODA Combi Rifle, Panzerfaust, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 24) KEMPEI (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CCW, Electric Pulse. (0 | 21) KEISOTSU Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 14) KEISOTSU Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9) KEISOTSU Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9) GROUP 21 1 1 YOJIMBO Contender, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades, CrazyKoalas (2) / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 21) KEISOTSU (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) 6 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army So the core concept is lots of motorcycles, the O-Yoroi tag, and a full fireteam of Keisotsu using the Kempeitai and Yuriko Oda. The Kempeitai provides Chain of Command because Asuka tends to be an aggressive LT, and Yuriko is both an Engineer to keep my TAG running and also carries a Panzerfaust. Both of them are Specialists for missions and Yuriko has mines which admittedly I forgot to use last night. At the end, I had enough points for one more Keisotsu FO who is mainly an order-feeder to Yojimbo but also gives me an emergency backup Specialist if I need one. You could also fit a Chaiyi remote to use with the Aragoto Hacker if you prefer that, I haven't tested this option. It would free up two points which means you could alter another Keisotsu or give Kempeitai a Combi instead of a Boarding Shotgun. However, I feel that three Specialists in the same fire team is kind of unnecessary and I like the Boarding Shotgun in order to have a variety of different ranged weapons in the group which already has three Combis (including Yuriko who has the same higher BS as the Kempeitai). The final option would be to replace the FO with Chaiyi and use the 2 points to make one Keisotsu into a Paramedic which I believe is the best option and I will try this sometime as I think it would be an improvement in case you lose Yuriko/Kempeitai and need them back to avoid potential LoL or to fix the TAG, or just to keep my fire team bonuses in general. Yojimbo is there for thematic reasons (being a motorcycle) but is also our sole source of smoke and a strong melee model. Plus, I'm not sure what else I could take in his spot other than two more Keisotsu. I played three games last night. First was against Haqqislam QK which went very successfully, we were doing the 3-antennas mission. I used the Spitfire bikes as fast flanking pieces early in the game and due to their speed I was able to make several kills to reduce my opponent's pool before his first turn. I've generally had good luck with these guys and been very pleased to have them. The Hacker Aragoto generally uses his speed to get up to a center objective, then frequently needs to dismount in order to take it since bikes can't climb. This hasn't been a problem, he will generally either stay near that area in cover to defend the objective or else he can remount later. This was my first time using a TAG and I was wary due to hearing tales about how anti-TAG weapons can take them out too easily. Therefore I kept him back in partial cover to leverage the range of his HMG with the intent that I could move him forward after the Aragoto cleared the way a bit. Turns out he mainly was in a long range firefight with Scarface & Cordelia. I put him down, he got fixed, then I put him down again along with Cordelia. In the process I took two wounds from a Panzerfaust ARO that slipped past my 4 dice somehow. Yuriko was nearby in case of need but I never lost my final wound and the situation was well under control from the bikes so he just stayed in place covering much of the board with AROs. In the end, we tabled the opposing force with minimal losses and captured the 2nd and 3rd antennas for the win as well as scanning an enemy model for my secret objective. Yojimbo was the only one that performed poorly, his Extremely Impetuous nature causing him to stupidly run into a bullet. Afterwards I learned that you can spend a regular order to cancel this and I should have done that to keep him alive. Won't make that mistake again Second game was against a different brand-new Haqqislam player. As this was his first "real" game (he played a demo last week) we did a 150 point battle so I reduced my list to Kisaragi/Spitfire Bike/Hacker Bike and a link team of Kempeitai/HMG/Paramedic/Combi/Combi. The game went similarly with a Spitfire bike gradually rolling up the enemy force from a flank which allowed the other bikes to close range more safely to where their shorter weapons would be useful. Nothing much to note here that was different from the first game other than getting more use out of Kisaragi. Third game was against Aleph and a high level player. We kept the same 3-antenna mission since we were short on time before the store was closing and didn't want to waste it on table setup. He had a 10-model force with several super-elites and cheap cheerleaders to fuel them. We took significant losses this game, losing all my bikes and one Keisotsu near the end. My TAG had 1 damage on him. The Spitfires were less effective against his elite guys with ODD and/or high ARM and in some cases visors that countered my Mimetism. He was also much more savvy in positioning so that I would not be able to keep enough distance to get in a +3 range band with my Spitfires. We did manage some damage, killing at least one of his strong models and a few cheap ones as well. Yojimbo accorded himself much better in this fight, taking out three models personally. The first two were in close combat - Acmon and a Myrmidon Officer, then when his bike didn't have room to pass he dismounted to shoot a Dakini remote in the back with his Pistol. I believe that was 75 points from a 21 point model who survived - not bad! Basically we did a fairly good job of keeping his entire force in his deployment zone and on my last turn (I went first) I was holding two of the three antenna and had four of my Keisotsu link team hanging out guarding the middle antenna as well as my TAG in suppression fire. Then his TO:Camo model appears next to the antenna and takes control of it. Of course we shoot it to pieces, but it doesn't matter because his roll to take it is not face to face. Apparently this is a common sort of conclusion to this particular mission? It's my first time doing this mission - I suppose what I could have done instead would be to surround the antenna with bodies so he'd have to kill some of them to be able to touch it but I thought I only had to guard it against an approach and was geared for that. Anyway, it was a pretty successful field test and I can definitely see some version of this becoming one of my standard lists. The biggest weakness I'd say is a lack of elite models. Other than my TAG there is no BS greater than 12 (not counting link team bonuses), no visors, no camo greater than Mimetism which is only on Impetuous models that can't gain Cover. So, I think we rely on hitting first or staying out of sight more. Luckily, the speed of the bikes helps with that. Next week I'll probably be doing either a ninja-centric list or a Domaru/Haramaki fire team list and see how that goes.
  6. My buddy was painting most of my CA TAGs for me and I just got them back so I wanted to show them off. Raicho was painted first by me before Onyx came up, and I'm considering re-doing it to match the others better. What do you think?
  7. Hey, sorry if this question has been answered before but I had a thought after playing Fire Fight recently. Is there anything preventing both a TAG and the pilot from activating the same panoply? (Not at the same time obviously, but if I first move up to it while using the TAG profile, activate it and get loot, and then dismount with the pilot + activate and get loot on the pilot.) It doesn´t seem broken or anything, but it could really make the difference in the missions where the number of panoplies you take matter. Instinctivly I think that yes, it is allowed, but I want to hear your thoughts before doing it in a game!
  8. So I want one but I can't buy one, what to do? Make it myself of course. Actually I don't even play Haq but the concept art is so nice I have to have one, even if it's only going to be scenery.
  9. So we have a scenario where a TAG pilot is moving back to his machine (first short skill move) and then board it (2nd short skill), while doing so a HD enemy appears and shoots the pilot (while he boards the TAG). Lets assume that the shoot hits and pilot fails ARM roll. What happens now ? Is TAG still in "locked" state ? Is normal (manned) TAG basicly incapiticated as his pilot is unconcious (but inside a TAG) ? Is TAG with an remote pilot unaffected (so yes remote pilot is dead but if TAG got unlocked by the fact of boarding) ? SOLUTION Ok my bad it seems I've forgot that actually it is a TAG who declares a "mount" skill (so the TAG itself gets activated) while the pilot is b2b with it.
  10. I have no doubt this has been answered a bunch but I am just not finding it, or the answers I find are still unclear. Walk me through were I mess up my understanding of the rules. scenario 1 I am the active player and only have 1 order. I spend an order on a tag I own to dismount, because I have activated the tag this will trigger aro's from the enemy 2 inches in front of the tag. However because I use the new profile for the full order, if I place myself behind my tag in base to base contact he will not have line of sight and can not shoot me pilot or tag? Could he chain rifle my pilot or tag? Would that be an intuitive attack? could he engage aro my tag? At the start of my next turn will I have 1 or zero orders? scenario 2 I am the active player. I have a possessed enemy Gecko Tag. Can I spend an order to dismount the pilot? If so do I control the pilot? What if the pilot was a ghost remote pilot? Any faq's or new rules preventing me from simply jumping this tag to death? Last question and not about tags, but missile launchers in blast mode. I am the reactive player. My enemy's fireteam heris leader pokes his head around the corner. I aro with a missile in blast mode, I lay down the round template and I will hit his other two fireteam members. My opponent will shoot. In the face to face roll my enemy scored a crit on a 15 and I rolled a 1. I take a wound thanks to the crit, the fireteam leader is fine, the other two members of his team have to make three armor saves each. Could he have moved his fireteam up, provoked my aro, shot me with the link leader, and dodged with the other 2 troops breaking the link?
  11. 1: First an easy semantic question - Every list has to include a trooper with the lieutenant skill. If s/he gets killed, a new one is appointed. Does this new model have the actual "Lieutenant" skill or is it just appointed as a replacement lieutenant? I would think it must get the actual skill, but it never actually says so in the Loss of Lieutenant section. This came up in the 20X20 secondary objective "Kill the Lieutenant." Can a second/third/fourth model gain the skill and thus be counted as a casualty? 2: I am confused about the chain of events surrounding a manned pilot when their TAG loses its last STR point. Rules from the "Pilot" section: This Special Skill allows the user to use an alternative Troop Profile. This Pilot Troop Profile is usable only after the trooper declares a Move Short Skill and specifies he will use it to Dismount his Manned TAG or Vehicle. The Pilot Troop Profile may also activate as a result of a successful enemy Hacking Program with that Effect. The Pilot of an Unconscious Vehicle or TAG generates no Orders for himself or for his Order Pool. The Pilot of an Unconscious Vehicle or TAG is not considered either as a survivor or a casualty for Victory Points, Retreat! or any other purposes. From the movement section (abridged): By declaring Move, a trooper may Mount or Dismount a Motorcycle, TAG, Vehicle, etc. at the start of his Movement at no cost, the new troop profile will be applied during the whole sequence of the Order. From the manned section (abridged): This Special Skill allows the user to receive Orders from its Order Pool despite being Unconscious. These Orders can only be used to Dismount the Pilot (see General Movement rules, Move), and use the Pilot's Troop Profile. A Manned trooper whose Pilot has dismounted cannot use its TAG or Vehicle Troop Profile to declare Orders or AROs. The TAG or Vehicle figure of a Manned trooper whose Pilot has dismounted is still a valid target for enemy attacks. If the TAG or Vehicle figure of a Manned trooper whose Pilot dismounted enters the Dead state, remove both the TAG or Vehicle and the Pilot from play. From the dead section (again abridged) If a trooper in the Normal state loses all the points of his Wounds/ Structure Attribute, and takes one or more extra points of damage, he enters the Dead state automatically. My Note: Because it confused me - TAGs do not get damaged or destroyed. They suffer wounds, fall unconscious, and then are dead just like models with the Wound characteristic. They are not scenery, markers, or equipment and do not follow any of those rules. They also dodge with a -6, because that rule is scattered elsewhere in the book, and why the hell not add it here...? So after hunting all this down (it would be nice to have all the TAG rules together in one place,) I think this is how it goes: 1: Manned TAG loses its last STR point going to exactly zero and enters the unconscious state. 1a: (Any further damage would destroy TAG and transfer wounds to pilot? It only actually says wounds transfer if the TAG has an ED? More than one wound would effectively kill the pilot twice as per dying from wounds AND the 4th bullet of the manned rule above. Is there somewhere that states wounds transfer on a non-ED TAG? Doesn't make sense not to...) 2: Pilot does NOT die or automatically dismount. 2a: (Assuming it does not have an ED system, of course.) 3: Unconscious TAG does NOT generate an order, but can use an order from the pool to declare the skill "Move" and dismount pilot. Pilot is placed on table in b2b with TAG and then can then move full distance? 3a: (This is a special case that somewhat contradicts movement rule listed above, as the pilot is not technically on the table at the beginning of the order, I think... The rules for dismount are a bit vague. I am looking at the rules for ED Level 1 for the b2b reference above. Could the pilot appropriate the unconscious TAG's order and declare shoot [or any other short skill, including move] for the second half? Unclear as the unconscious TAG spent the order and cannot declare anything other than "Move" to dismount the pilot. Pilot taking over the skill is likely though, as per the "new troop profile" clause of the movement rule listed above.) 4: Pilot can choose to hang out aimlessly in unconscious TAG rather than being dismounted. 4a: Ignore for TAGs with an ED. 5: Escaped pilots (from an unconscious TAG) do NOT generate an order as usual. 5a: Ignore for TAGs with an ED. 6: If, after pilot has escaped, the unconscious TAG loses one or more STR points, it and the vacated pilot are considered to be KIA and removed from table, both generating VPs to opponent. 6a: Ignore #6 for TAGs with an ED. 6b: Ghost: Remote Presence TAGs would ignore this entire process in exchange for a second level of unconsciousness, after further wounds yet, it would go to the Dead state. Does this mess sound right? Part of my confusion stems from the use of Wounded/Unconscious/Dead terminology with TAGs, as opposed to Wounded/Damaged/Destroyed terminology used with scenery and equipment. More confusion comes from that pilots do not get orders, but unconscious TAGs somehow do... Still more from the huge difference between manned TAGs with an ED vs. those without. Thanks.
  12. According to the Builder tags are divided into three types: 1) tags with the remot presence 2) Manned Tag 3) All other We are interested in the third option. The third option includes Maghariba, Guijia, Lizard and Raicho. The problem is that in the presence of the pilot, the tag is not written "manned". This raises a number of questions. 1) >Users of this Special Skill are pilots or drivers of vehicles or TAG with the Manned Special Skill. This Pilot Troop Profile is usable only after the trooper declares a Move Short Skill and specifies he will use it to Dismount his Manned TAG or Vehicle. It is written in the skill of the pilot. But the above tags are no skills manned. It turns out, the pilots of these tags can't get out of the robot? 2) If you get out they are all the same, refer to rule manned. There are the following: If the TAG or Vehicle figure of a Manned trooper whose Pilot dismounted enters the Dead state, remove both the TAG or Vehicle and the Pilot from play. It turns out that if the pilot got out of the tag, and the tag shot, then the pilot goes along with a tag, as I spelled out manned? 3) Or is it just a bug of Builder? But I found a printed sheet with maghariba, dated 29.01.2017. And there also was not manned.
  13. The French and the English make it pretty clear: If the pilot dismounts, and the TAG is destroyed, the Pilot should be removed from the table... but the Spanish is open to interpretation, depending on the separation of the clauses that make up the phrase: "El TAG o Vehículo de una tropa Tripulada..." "... cuyo Piloto ha desmontado y pasa a estado Muerto..." "... debe retirarse de la mesa de juego junto con la figura del Piloto." Would be: "A TAG or Manned Vehicle..." "... whose Pilot has dismounted and passed to Dead state..." "... should be removed from the game table with the Pilot figure." When the Pilot dies, the TAG is removed... but the TAG's death doesn't remove the pilot. Is this interpretation of the Spanish correct, @Palanka? (If so, the French and English versions need errata, since they're phrased in the opposite way.)
  14. Hey guys, its been a while since i posted anything here. I am really after any pictures or ideas on how to convert the seraph post. I already have one, but as you all know a single seraph is not enough. I want to have them posed so I can tell them apart easily in the game and also two of the same pose seems kinda wrong. I have seen people put the wings upside down which seems OK but has anyone changed the post to a kneeling position or even one mid jump? If so has anyone got a guide or walkthrough. If not I may have to just make it up and show it off once done. Cheers
  15. So, in a bit of a surprise to me, they didn't give the O-Yoroi just Specialist Operative, but the Forward Obeserver skill, which would entail the beloved flash pulse. Now, not only is she a decent Pseudo Skirmisher with CC 21 and martial arts, but she has added reactive ability to survive with the flash pulse, and can do normal objectives and classified ones like telemetry. With the Lt option in JSA there are unprecedented new tactics to consider and I want to hear them. Guijia pilot has some love as well. While being a specialist operative, she is also smoking hot! A light flamethrower! Oh my! Plus she's likely getting her model first. So what measures and counter measures do we have to take to support our newfound specialists? Any list ideas? I want to hear it. Calling all Sun Tzes and strategists.
  16. So my friend has gifted me the Pan O side of ice-storm. Its my first proper foray into skirmish games. We have played the first 3 missions and I am already hooked. I am looking as what to get next. I like to buy models based on looks but want to have some form of competitiveness to the list building, and eventually we want to play some ITS. Models I like the look of so far are Sereph, knight of the Holy Sepulchre, and aquila guard with HMG, oh and the Hexa with sniper. Any advice welcome to help me make the box up to 300 points
  17. jotums

    Dear all, I'm still pretty new in the game, and I want to try my new and shiny Jotum, therefore I want some advice to give him the best possible group of figures to make him a force to reckon. My main Idea, mostly focused on five him enough orders and support. Jotums 11 Ord SO ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 110 JOTUM Lieutenant MULTI HMG + Heavy Flamethrower, D.E.P. / . (3 | 103) CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. (0) FUSILIER Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18) AUXILIA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15) AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) AUXILIA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15) AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) INDIGO Spec-Ops (12 XP) (WIP:14, Engineer, Chain of Command) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13) PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) BULLETEER Heavy Shotgun / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17) LOCUST Breaker Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Shock CCW, Knife. (0 | 32) NISSE HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 34) FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) GROUP 21 1 SIERRA DRONBOT HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25) TECH-BEE (Remote Assistant Level 1, Specialist Operative) Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5) 6 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army My second Idea, using some of the best Pano Units available, but It still concerns me not to have those 2 caps into something fun. Jotum/Joan SO ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 8 2 JOTUM MULTI HMG + Heavy Flamethrower, D.E.P. / . (2 | 103) CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. (0) JOAN OF ARC Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, AP CCW. (+1 | 49) AUXILIA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15) AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) AUXILIA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15) AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) INDIGO Spec-Ops (12 XP) (WIP:13, Engineer, Chain of Command) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) WARCOR (Sixth Sense L1) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3) TECH-BEE (Remote Assistant Level 1, Specialist Operative) Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5) NISSE HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 34) LOCUST Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Breaker Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Shock CCW, Knife. (0.5 | 38) SIERRA DRONBOT HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25) 5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army Mind you give me some ideas to improve these lists?. Best Regards!
  18. So can tags get on motorcycles they pull out of a panoply? If yes, how does that interact with pilots? Can a pilot (or Staldron or whatever) get on a bike the TAG has activated? Do they have to get back in the TAG first?
  19. Hi, I'm playing Deadly Dance in a few days and I've a few doubts about possessed tags that I can't find in the rules. 1- Can a possessed tag declare AROs against its former comrades? 2- What happens if the possessor hacker dies?...The possessed state says the tag can receive orders from the group to which the hacker belongs, if he's dead, he doesn't belong to a group. 3- In missions like quadrant control, frontline or deadly dance that you have to control ground, does the tag count for any of the players?...I'm assuming no because it doesn't give victory points at the end of the game, but it doesn't say so explicitly anywhere (that I can find) 4- Is there anything that forbids you from making the tag go up a tall building then jump as high as it can and laugh when it falls to its death? Thanks!
  20. Picked up an anaconda impulsively, because I wanted to run it alongside my antipodes. Just wanted to know if this guy is worth it for Ariadna? Thanks!
  21. Hi! I'm a new player wanting to play a big TAG (jotums in this case), I have mostly military orders, but I want to play with this beast in a vanilla army, could you help me create something good?. I could proxy almost anything, and in this moment I own: Order Sergeants, Several Knights (Hospitallers x2, Black Friars, Holy Sepulcre), De Fersen, Juana, Pano Starter, Dronbots, Magisters... and a Jotums. I believe that I could proxy anything from Pano with this Could you help me?.
  22. Seems to be part of the Avatar's profile because I can't seem to add or remove the Avatar to a list in the army builder, without the Staldron. I mean, this is only a 'problem' for me because I don't have any Staldron model, and I won't be able to buy one anytime soon.
  23. So the problem with reptile series TAG's is that they don't look like a series, they have the widest range of chassis types in the game. Head or sensor cluster, internal or carried weapons, tail or no tail, operators legs in thighs or not, master arms or not they cover the full range. Now I've already made my Iguana by adding a tail and repeater antenna to a reposed lizard but my Corregidor also need a pair of Geckos. So I'm going to scratch build, I'm not a great sculptor but if I make some plastic templates jointed with wire I reckon I can manage a half decent job of building them up with green stuff so here is a start. The plan is to keep Gecko style legs with a Lizard type sensor cluster and a tail (theory being that the tail and sensor cluster were standard across the series, later series used higher speed gyros and didn't need the balance tail). I'll also stick with built in weaponry but go with forearm mounts like the salamander rather than firing through the palm. I'm attempting a running pose with the first (combi rifle) gecko.
  24. Hi all, I started playing infinity and PanO in particular a little while ago but have only just started to field the mighty TAG's of the super power. So far I've got a Squalos for long range support fire and a Tikbalang for a close range fighter. I've really enjoyed the different feel they bring to an army and to the game in general when you field one plus I'm having blast painting them up. After christmas I intend to pick up another TAG and was thinking of getting the Jotums, it looks like it will play differently to the others I have being just a giant roadblock and the model also looks pretty sweet :-) I have a couple of questions, firstly gameplay wise. How does it perform and how do you use yours? Is it just a giant rock unit that you dare your opponent to try and crack whilst you go ahead and win the mission or is there more to it that that. Secondly the model. It looks like it is one of the newer sculpts but does it have all the nice lock to fit joint sections of the newer models or is it a bit of a pain in the ass like the older stuff. Thanks for your thoughts :-)
  25. Call me a contrarian in me but I am currently trying lists that makes use of Symbiobombs and the Gorgos. I a I was initially trying to make use of the Gorgos and was finding that you can really do a lot without it already so why would you use it. I find it's limitations as a medium ranged TAG a bit prohibitive. Having said that with a Triad escort you can do some pretty interesting things. Symbiomates are fantastic however when running a Gorgos without Symbiobombs can quite limiting. You're missing out on ZoC deterrents on anything trying to hack/flame it. I rate symbiomates but I think we can actually get a lot of synergy using Symbiobombs with the Gorgos or even a HI triad. I'll break down the offensive Symbiobomb abilities. The defensive ones are good but I'd like to focus on how the offensive abilities can be used as shielding abilities or how they can be used to screen the advance of the Gorgos/HI Triad. I think the thing to remember about symbiobombs is that the only thing that makes it a FtF roll is a reset. This is quite good already. You’ve made the enemy use an order already without anything going off. The last thing I want to do in my active turn is to be forced to dodge/reset so it’s already getting off to a good start. You want the ability to work but even if it doesn’t you’ve used your enemy’s resources. Endgame - 2 WIP Rolls, DAM 14 BTS This is our straight forward wounding attack. It's very interesting and really can scare those low BTS units. I think in active turn this one is really fantastic. What is great about it is that you can't really defend it. Getting makauls with someone in Symbio armour in 8 inches isn't hard. If the opportunity presents itself you can really assassinate a hacker/flame unit with no real risk to you. In the ARO it's something else. Still good but you don't gain the mods that the isolated/immobilized abilities give you. Good as you put something down dead. Eraser - 2 WIP Rolls, DAM 13 BTS DT, -3 Target WIP This is our isolating piece. Incredibly useful again as it stops units from receiving any extra orders unless they're veterans or space monkeys. For a shielding against HI links with hackers or something that can soak a few shots this ability is great. Hellzone – 2 WIP Rolls, DAM 13 BTS DT, +3 your WIP. This puts the target into IMM-1 state. Again very useful for breaking up links and stopping the immediate advance of a unit. This is very situational but people can reset out of IMM-1. Unlike traditional hacking it’s unlikely you will have another Symbiobomb in range to try again if they do meaning most of the time if they can spend the order they’re out of the IMM state. Having said that you’re forcing them to use orders in this way which is very much what Tohaa love to do. Used in the active turn however you can absolutely monster with a double Makaul flame. Pandemonium – 3 WIP Rolls, DAM 14 BTS Breaker, -3 Target WIP. Stunning attack and 3 WIP rolls in active. Respectable in ARO but being able to distribute 3 WIP rolls in active great. Focus on one unit to take it out for the round. I see this as a counter to those damn hard hacker units that may threaten you like Father Knights or a Hac Tao. The breaker munition helps manage their high BTS add to that they suffer -3 WIP as well. All these tools are different but all definitely have their place. Getting to know what the abilities are and being flexible to go either way in active or reactive use of symbiobombs is key. Coupled with nullifiers symbiobombs can be used as punishing active turn screening tools. They also give options in our reactive turn. One of the strengths of symbiobombs is that they effect models with wounds. The fact that they can only effect W models is a bit of a disadvantage. Would it break the game if they could effect both?? I honestly don’t think so but it won’t change the fact that they cannot. There are some deadly units out there with STR that your bombs will not be effecting. REMs, Su Jian and TAGS will generally be causing you a lot of pain. Having said that knowing what these units are and what they can do helps counter them. Careful deployment and movement means you should be able to engage these units on your terms. I'm using limited insertion lists for my next few games regardless just to get the flow of it. Forcing myself to use combinations I wouldn't normally do has been fun but also broadens the game up. This is very much a direct action list and not an objective list but can be easily modified. Tohaa ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 10 2 GORGOS Squad Chaksa Peripheral B . (2 | 82) GORGOS AP Spitfire, Flammenspeer, Pulzar +1 Chaksa Peripheral B / Shock CCW. (2 | 82) CHAKSA PERIPHERAL B Pulzar / Pistol, Knife. (4) MAKAUL Heavy Flamethrower, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, Viral CCW. (0 | 13) MAKAUL Heavy Flamethrower, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, Viral CCW. (0 | 13) SUKEUL (Forward Observer) K1 Combi Rifle, Nullifier / Pistol, Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 33) KAELTAR Light Shotgun, Flash Pulse + 2 SymbioBombs / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 15) SUKEUL Missile Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Breaker Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 36) KAELTAR (Chain of Command) Light Shotgun, Flash Pulse + 2 SymbioMates / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 21) IGAO Boarding Shotgun, Stun Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 25) NIKOUL Viral Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28) RASAIL Lieutenant Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines + 1 Chaksa Peripheral / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 34) CHAKSA PERIPHERAL Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (- | 4) 5.5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army I know that I'm not fielding any of the WiP 14 units we have. I may play around with that but the moment limited insertion actually limits your other troops choices and I think the synergy with this list is quite good as it is. Symbiobombs are likely to go on the Sukeul FO and Gorgos. Symbiomates will be Gorgos and possibly Nikoul or Sukeul ML. The triads change up a bit. I've intentionally left out the Gao Rael Sniper. There is enough flame and things to deal with Camo in the list. Double Makauls and Sukeul with Nullifier are excellent VS hackers/Warbands that want to get up close. Having said that the WiP 14 B2 flash pulse is also good so a Kaeltar can easily fit in for that 24” range band. The Sukeul ML is something different. Usually it would be a Gao Rael but I think it's a solid anti-armour/ARO piece to warrant it's place on the list. You can easily change this up though and put the points into another piece. The Rasail with mines is something new I'm trying. I think it's one of those pieces that can be a pain to dislodge. The mines + Chaksa means it can take and hold quadrants or atleast make your opponent use orders to dislodge. Park it in suppressive fire with no cover =no worries. Nanoshield. This also helps against those pesky HFT templates. I actually am really liking this load out. I trade with the Taquel but find the added mobility and Chaksa something quite different. The Igao I take because I like. Can easily be replaced for a Clipsos FO or Kerail Preceptors depending on what I feel I’m going up against. Having infiltrators can help greatly eliminate those pesky flamer threats. The Igao can hold it’s head up as being a great assassination piece. I am tempted to also put in a Kumotail and Chaksa servant to support it. Keeping one around to help an immobilised/isolated Gorgos is probably needed however I’ve found I’ve been able to keep the Gorgos safe with a Nullifier network. Hopefully this ranty post has been helpful. Let me know how the crazy Gorgos/HI adventures go as well J