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So I bought into the 50% off pack during the sale. Know very little about Infinity and haven't read the rules. I like the aesthetic of Aleph, except Steel Phalanx. I want robots and robot women all day long though. So what do I do? Can I play using the bundle I got? What should be my next buy (those Amazing Posthuman Proxies models are really tempting, as is the Maruts)? What sort of list should I use?

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Welcome to Infinity! 

Not sure off the top of my head what was in the bundle, but I think they were designed to be playable 300 point lists. Regardless, I highly recommend starting at much lower points values. Infinity can have a steep learning curve, and jumping in at 300 points with advanced units will only make it harder. 

First things first, find a friend who is interested or head down to your LGS and see if you can find someone to help you learn. There are quick start rules in the download section (where you can also get the full rules for free!)  which are a good place to start. Small 100 point games at the beginning, building into larger games and scenario play. If you can find someone with one of the starter sets for the game (like Operation Icestorm) then there are a list of scenarios in there that gradually introduce you to new rules using the models in the box (PanOceania vs Nomads) which is a great way to learn the basics. 

As for what to buy next - whatever you think looks coolest! Infinity is a remarkably well balanced game with very few poor units, so you don't have to worry about buying stuff that plays badly! That said, you can easily make poor lists with good models, but good list building is something you'll pick up as you learn. As for Posthumans, yup, they're both amazing models and powerful on the table. They do have a few extra rules to learn however! The Marut is cool, but I don't recommend it for learning the game, largely due to the massive point cost. Nothing to stop you painting it up for when you move on to 300 point games though! 

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Playing with the army builder and what was in the bundle I came up with this;

 

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logo_701.png ALEPH
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orden_regular.png10  
logo_3.pngDEVA Lieutenant Combi Rifle, Nanopulser + Devabot / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
 sep.giflogo_3.pngDEVABOT Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (4)
logo_3.pngDEVA Combi Rifle, Nanopulser + Devabot / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
 sep.giflogo_3.pngDEVABOT Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (4)
logo_4.pngASURA Hacker (Hacking Device Plus UPGRADE: Redrum) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, AP CCW. (0.5 | 72)
logo_1.pngDAKINI Tacbot Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
logo_1.pngDAKINI Tacbot Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
logo_1.pngDAKINI Tacbot Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
logo_2.pngGARUDA Tacbot Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 28)
logo_7.pngDASYU Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 37)
logo_6.pngNAGA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28)
logo_3.pngDEVA (Sensor) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)

2 SWC | 288 Points

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As Snozz said said starting off at lower pts level is best i am currently taking part in a escalation league to learn, theres no need to jump into advance rules straight away get the basics down first.

In fact a great way to learn if you have anyone else in the area who plays is the operation icestorm or the operation red veil boxes they introduce the game well and give you a idea of the different types of troops you see.

As to getting the posthumans they are very good and used by most people who play aleph so you wont regret getting them.

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I'd second the post on learning with either Red Veil or Icestorm. Yes it won't help you with your Aleph specifically, but you'll get the basics down and it's a good jumping off point if you're brand new. 

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5 hours ago, Snozz said:

Welcome to Infinity! 

Not sure off the top of my head what was in the bundle, but I think they were designed to be playable 300 point lists. Regardless, I highly recommend starting at much lower points values. Infinity can have a steep learning curve, and jumping in at 300 points with advanced units will only make it harder. 

First things first, find a friend who is interested or head down to your LGS and see if you can find someone to help you learn. There are quick start rules in the download section (where you can also get the full rules for free!)  which are a good place to start. Small 100 point games at the beginning, building into larger games and scenario play. If you can find someone with one of the starter sets for the game (like Operation Icestorm) then there are a list of scenarios in there that gradually introduce you to new rules using the models in the box (PanOceania vs Nomads) which is a great way to learn the basics. 

As for what to buy next - whatever you think looks coolest! Infinity is a remarkably well balanced game with very few poor units, so you don't have to worry about buying stuff that plays badly! That said, you can easily make poor lists with good models, but good list building is something you'll pick up as you learn. As for Posthumans, yup, they're both amazing models and powerful on the table. They do have a few extra rules to learn however! The Marut is cool, but I don't recommend it for learning the game, largely due to the massive point cost. Nothing to stop you painting it up for when you move on to 300 point games though! 

Thanks! There is no FLGS in my part of the country unfortunately. There 3 or 4 people who play Infinity but I don't think any of them own any of the intro boxes. Good to know I'll be able to buy the models I like :) I buy models by rule of cool usually.

2 hours ago, Necrotix said:

Playing with the army builder and what was in the bundle I came up with this;

 

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logo_701.png ALEPH
──────────────────────────────────────────────────

orden_regular.png10  
logo_3.pngDEVA Lieutenant Combi Rifle, Nanopulser + Devabot / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
 sep.giflogo_3.pngDEVABOT Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (4)
logo_3.pngDEVA Combi Rifle, Nanopulser + Devabot / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
 sep.giflogo_3.pngDEVABOT Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (4)
logo_4.pngASURA Hacker (Hacking Device Plus UPGRADE: Redrum) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, AP CCW. (0.5 | 72)
logo_1.pngDAKINI Tacbot Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
logo_1.pngDAKINI Tacbot Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
logo_1.pngDAKINI Tacbot Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
logo_2.pngGARUDA Tacbot Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 28)
logo_7.pngDASYU Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 37)
logo_6.pngNAGA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28)
logo_3.pngDEVA (Sensor) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)

2 SWC | 288 Points

Open in Infinity Army

 

Oh, nice, thanks! Don't understand it but will be sure to check it out again when I do :)

1 hour ago, Solarflare31 said:

As Snozz said said starting off at lower pts level is best i am currently taking part in a escalation league to learn, theres no need to jump into advance rules straight away get the basics down first.

In fact a great way to learn if you have anyone else in the area who plays is the operation icestorm or the operation red veil boxes they introduce the game well and give you a idea of the different types of troops you see.

As to getting the posthumans they are very good and used by most people who play aleph so you wont regret getting them.

Yeah would be cool with an escalation but I don't think there'd be enough interest. Will definitely get the posthumans :)

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13 hours ago, Alephx said:

..Yeah would be cool with an escalation but I don't think there'd be enough interest. Will definitely get the posthumans :)

Infinity is quite complex, and you should definitely aim for smaller Starter vs Starter or 150-200 point battles at first.

Going with the rule of cool is fine – the reason I got into Infinity was because I wanted Achilles V1 and the Marut models – but an open wallet, and no knowledge of the rules/playstyle caused me to end up with a ton of Steel Phalanx, that I never use (they're great models and all painted up, but the playstyle is just too limited for my taste). So getting in some smaller games to understand the various aspects and tools in the game is a great way to learn, what you'll need to play the game, the way you want to. That said, a Marut and the posthumans won't disappoint you – and although, you aren't into them as much, a few greeks goes a long way in supporting your robots, a Myrmidon Spitfire or a Myrmidon Officer to dump smoke to support your Marut, while a model like Machaon can singlehandedly win you games.

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14 hours ago, Alephx said:

Thanks! There is no FLGS in my part of the country unfortunately. There 3 or 4 people who play Infinity but I don't think any of them own any of the intro boxes. Good to know I'll be able to buy the models I like :) I buy models by rule of cool usually.

Which country are you from? If your from the USA I know of some online stores that have been a great help to me in starting Infinity. Also have you check ebay or an equivalent yet to see what is on sale?

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20 hours ago, Alephx said:

Thanks! There is no FLGS in my part of the country unfortunately. There 3 or 4 people who play Infinity but I don't think any of them own any of the intro boxes. Good to know I'll be able to buy the models I like :) I buy models by rule of cool usually.

No problem ^^. 

That's fine, you don't need a store to play if you know some people who do. Without intro boxes I think, as @Regelridderen suggests, try some small 100 point games and starter vs starter games. I'd recommend something like this:

1. The most common starting game is 3 line troops on each side, though this is slightly harder to do with Aleph as our line troops are a bit better than other factions! It's the best way to get a handle on the basics of order generation, BS attacks and cover. Bonus: if any of the people you know play Combined Army then Unidrons vs Dakinis would be a good start. Play a couple of these. 

2. Starter box game. Take the core starter for Aleph, running the Naga as an FO rather than a hacker. Ignore the restriction on remotes that requires a hacker for now. This is a good intro to more advanced rules like camouflage. Play a few of these. 

3. 200 points annihilation games. Try out some other new models here, maybe some Airborne Deployment (Garuda!). Start taking hackers if you want remotes now. 

4. 200 points ITS scenarios. You should be familiar with the basics of most rules and unit types now, so try and put it all together in some objective driven scenario play. Don't forget your specialists! 

5. 300 points ITS scenarios. The default game mode for many people! After this you could try other mission systems (YAMS, 20x20) or extra rules like Limited Insertion (Max one combat group - super fun!). 

6. Become addicted to Infinity and start another faction (they're all so cool)! 

7. Keep repeating step 6 until you run out of money or drown in unassembled miniatures. B) 

 

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