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Leila Sharif

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Hi there!

Short question about Leila Sharif from Dire Foes: worth having? Or easily replaceable by other troopers?

What's your opinion?

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Short question in return: and what purpose you want her to fulfill?

In what army?

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Independently of army, sectorial et cetera - Leila Sharif is nice and definitely worth having. She can link with Ghulams in both sectorials or even Muyibs in Bahram, giving them specialist Killer Hacker with D-Charges and good weapon - Shock Marksman Rifle. She's also good in Vanilla, for 4pts more than Barid she has few benefits (the forementioned D-Charges and SMR for example).

IMHO very nice unit and also very fine model - I've used her in few tournaments since she came out and I highly recommend

 

PozdRawiam / Greetings

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She is superb. Almost automatic include in Hassassins for me. I've also used her quite a few times in Vanilla Haqq, especially when I already have a Barid in the list (AHD, or FO lt), as one Pitcher is enough. The gun is surprisingly nice, you can pick outrange rifles in that sweet 16-24, or get under some big guns at 8-16. It is also really nice in ARO at long distances if you can afford to lose her, having only -3 to 40". I have quite a few times just stuck her up when enemy doesn't have any Hackers who worry me and I don't need the classifieds and she can block movement well. Shock is a nice bonus, especially when supressing. 

In active turn she can become a deadly assault piece if you have the orders. Put Cybermask on, walk to where you have range bonus and they have bad range and blast away with Surprise Shot. Of course in Hassassins she is completely different thing, required to get the 5-man Ghulam link. Almost always she is the second best gun in the Fireteam, whereas other Fireteams I kind of want secondary big gun apart from rifles which usually has SWC. I've also ran hacking lists where I have max AVA of Barids already and want also Leila.

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2 hours ago, Errhile said:

Short question in return: and what purpose you want her to fulfill?

In what army?

nothing to add

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3 hours ago, Errhile said:

Short question in return: and what purpose you want her to fulfill?

In what army?

... I have no idea. :( I'm new to this...

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Well, as any other model in Infinity, she's a tool. A sledgehamer isn't going to be of much use to a surgeon - he needs a scalpel. Not that a sledgehammer is a bad tool in its own right - it is a matter of what is your trade, and what job do you have to do.

In Bahram, Leila is indispensable as 5th member of a Ghilim Core Fireteam. 

In Qapu Khalqi, she's a valuable mid-range shooting option for such a Fireteam, or alternate KHD faster than a Druze Hacker, both covering the QKs need for a Cybermask Impersonation (because otherwise they lack Impersonation whatsoever).

She can fry hacker brains, do objectives (including going after them as an Imperosonation Marker - though she ca't do it while in a Fireteam). She can shoot over renges equivalent to a Spitfire - and with Shock Ammo.

I'm not going to try describing her in vanilla Haqq, due to my lack of experience with Vanilla.

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She's becoming almost an auto-include for me in Hassassin, almost always in a fireteam with 4 Ghulam or 4 Muyib. KHD is nice, the Shock Marksman Rifle is awesome, and her D-Charges and other abilities are useful.

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I personally love Leila, she's a 20 point Hunter and she does it reasonably well, especially with cybermask. She's a near autoinclude in many of my lists.

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Im actually not a fan of her in vanilla. Cybermask is a full order and while its nice its not the be all end all many people make it out to be. Her high wip is nice, and she isnt a bad unit, I just dont find her synergies as strong in vanilla compared with some of the other combinations you can run.

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autoinclude in bahram.

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1 hour ago, Wombat85 said:

Im actually not a fan of her in vanilla. Cybermask is a full order and while its nice its not the be all end all many people make it out to be. Her high wip is nice, and she isnt a bad unit, I just dont find her synergies as strong in vanilla compared with some of the other combinations you can run.

honestly you could take the hacking device away from her and just give her specialist operative and a special rule that unlocks REMs for your list and I'd still consider her a solid 20 point investment, mostly because shock marksman rifle is such a good weapon, between it and the BS bump she really doesn't need to use her hacking device at all to justify herself.

She definitely shines that little bit more when being run in a link so that another Ghulam/Muyib can cover up for her lack of a shotgun in tight conditions.

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I haven't reached the point were she is an auto include (start the list with her there), but she is usually in the list by the end. Her link options are too useful. As a stand along model I wouldn't say she is an auto include, I find the Barid better. I may try her in QK (if legal), but I haven't played them in a while. 

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22 minutes ago, CannonFodder_mtl said:

I may try her in QK (if legal), 

She's legal :) (according to Army 6). Counts as Ghulam for Fireteam composition.

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As others have said, Leila is almost automatic in every list I make. The trick with her is to recognize her limitations in addition to her strengths. She's an amazing hunter and specialist for her cost.

She's not going to kick down doors and smash face, but instead is a surprisingly lethal and effective little package. She dies a lot, but she also can take out guys way above her point value. Treat her like many Haqq units and trade up. 

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Have to offer a different perspective here. She is a sweet model and makes playing Hassassains much more flexible. But in a Vanilla army, I don't think her cost in real money, the dire foe box, is worth the game value. For a beginner, building up your collection, there are much better and more efficient uses of your money. She's more of an icing unit than part of the cake. 

If you have both armies from the Red Veil set, however, forget all that and get this box immediately. The Yu Jing counterpart is even better as a stand alone unit, and that box would complement your collection nicely for moving toward 300 point ITS scenarios.

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For me, Leila has fried more brains then I have omlettes! I play vanilla and she is very close to turning into an autoinclude for me personally. Her shock marksman rifle is awesome and teamed up with the zhayden they make a killing team.

For hacking, tie in 18 pt Hunzakut and  Barid pitcher and no one seems to see it coming. It frees up the barid to be the hacker LT profile too (although lightning is pretty sweet) who supports the TR bot and control jump spitfire ragik... there is so much synergy! Golly gosh I love our beautiful Haqqislam toolbox!

I agree with @FutwahJones that it may not be a beginners first buy - I would suggest to do the QK/HB sectorial starter boxes first as it gives you a lot of flavours to try out. Next I went for Mutts, support box or, playing vanilla, naffatun who get a lot of use for me personally.

 However, it's worth noting that the dire foes box has given me the model that is ALWAYS an auto include and plays 99.9% of my games - the freelance stringer HVT model. 

She sees more of the table then any other figure I own ;)

 

 

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I am not sure how does community look at ideas like this, but for beginners who don't play in strictly governed tournament events, Leila can be handily represented by a Ghulam sniper from Ghulam starter box, which I find to be a pretty nice purchase early on, especially if you are looking to play a Bahram list. That one plus Bahram stater itself gives you a lot of options to tinker with during your first games IMO.

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20 hours ago, Edster said:

 

However, it's worth noting that the dire foes box has given me the model that is ALWAYS an auto include and plays 99.9% of my games - the freelance stringer HVT model. 

She sees more of the table then any other figure I own ;)

 

I didn't even consider the HVT, but that is one way to think about it. If you play ITS scenarios and don't have one, it definitely increases the value of the box. 

But the more I think about, Leila is not really a beginner friendly unit in game terms either. She is very versatile, but is not straightforward in how to maximize without situational experience and adds some advanced rules with her KHD.

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10 hours ago, FutwahJones said:

and adds some advanced rules with her KHD.

There are a few good threads on that one in general section of the forum, main one being a hacking game recap. I highly recommend reading that to speed up forming of a whole picture on that in your head.

Edit: General question, is she of limited availability, i.e. for the duration of certain event or so? I'm new to how Infinity timeline works.

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No, she's general availability to all the Haqq factions who can field her.

The trick seems to be the fact that she - like all other Dire Foes SpecOp Characters - comes in a pack containing 3 models in total (herself, an opposing character, in this case a Yu Jing one, and a civvie who is a focal point of a scenario downloadable from the CB website, plus some freebie stuff like art postcards). While the civvie tends to be useful at least as HVT, the other faction's model - unless you happen to play that exact faction too - can be viewed as a bit of a problem.

Sure, the CB intended the Dire Foes packs to be a joint purchase for two players, but it can be difficult, especially in smaller metas, to find a partner to purchase one with you. Which is often seen as needless increase of an effective price of a given SpecOp: "I have to pay for a 3-model box to get just one model out of the set, that's unfair!". 

Personally, I never had any problem with that - either managed to get that purchase partner, or sell the unwanted models outside of my meta. 

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On 29/06/2017 at 2:01 AM, Barrogh said:

I am not sure how does community look at ideas like this, but for beginners who don't play in strictly governed tournament events, Leila can be handily represented by a Ghulam sniper from Ghulam starter box, which I find to be a pretty nice purchase early on, especially if you are looking to play a Bahram list. That one plus Bahram stater itself gives you a lot of options to tinker with during your first games IMO.

My meta, and I believe most other metas, are very accepting of proxies.

 

So Varsovian: it sounds like she's worth having, but if possible you should proxy her at least once or twice to see if she actually fits your playstyle.

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4 hours ago, Hexa said:

My meta, and I believe most other metas, are very accepting of proxies.

Same here.

For heaven's sake, we had a guy playing for a year with WH40K miniatures and what-not before he decided the meta is stable enough - and he likes the game well-enough to invest into proper Infinity minis... No-one batted na eyelid at that.

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