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Kriza Boracs, Tunguska Crisis Special Unit - Speculation

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20 minutes ago, Icchan said:

CB teases Kriza Borac's outline. Funny cylinder on his back.

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Jet pack maybe ? 

Because reasons.

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Superjump would be freakin' awesome, yes

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1 hour ago, Bakga said:

Looks nothing like the old artwork. 

I hope they still have the singular eye in the middle, all cyclops-y and shit.

 

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AD S5 hi...with hmg.

One can hope,not?

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10 minutes ago, Darkvortex87 said:

AD S5 hi...with hmg.

One can hope,not?

Mk12 would be better, but damn i like this idea more than super-jump! Actually, can we dream and hope for both?

Maybe it could be sniffers and/or repeaters ?

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Will CB ever do a normal, S2 HI again? :( It's worrisome that every new HI is S5 since the Father Knight, only exceptions are the already existing profile's resculpts.

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4 minutes ago, Crusader said:

Will CB ever do a normal, S2 HI again? :( It's worrisome that every new HI is S5 since the Father Knight, only exceptions are the already existing profile's resculpts.

Apart from the Ayyer and the Shakimi you mean?

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1 minute ago, BaleWolf said:

Apart from the Ayyer and the Shakimi you mean?

Posthuman 4.

Edit: not that I disagree, there's too many S5 HI. More of a cool thing dilutes it and takes away from all of them.

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Interesting. It draws a lot from the Szalamandra. My guess is that it has Forward Deployment, no MSV (Grenzer already has that covered)... other than that it looks very "Starship Troopers"... Super-Jump is a strong possibility. The fluff seems to pitch them as the fast response of the Nomads.

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Hector, AchilliesV2, technically Zuyongs were after the Father Knight, were all S2 as well. There have been quite a few S5 HI but I'm pretty biased because I really like them. 

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1 hour ago, Alkymedes said:

Mk12 would be better, but damn i like this idea more than super-jump! Actually, can we dream and hope for both?

Maybe it could be sniffers and/or repeaters ?

Box is supposed to be Mark 12.

 

Dossier art means nothing in the long run.

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S2 HI with capes, like Nisse of PanO. Holoprojector, Tactical Jump, whatever...but...capes and hoods.

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I like that S5 often denotes lower-tech equipment, such as the Azra'il or Blackjack, or to actually be more physically powerful and intimidating, like the Swast or Sogarat.  I think they sit in an interesting design space... And they probably sell really well too.  Serious beefcake armor is popular.

It's interesting to see another one for Nomads.  To think that Nomads were once the "medium Infantry" faction... Now they have some pretty solid offerings in the HI department too.  The Swast is one of the best all-rounders in the game, and Riot Grrrrls basically set the standard for linkable HI in Infinity.  If the KB is a success, Nomads will have a lot to be proud of.  

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Just now, Barakiel said:

To think that Nomads were once the "medium Infantry" faction... Now they have some pretty solid offerings in the HI department too.  The Swast is one of the best all-rounders in the game, and Riot Grrrrls basically set the standard for linkable HI in Infinity.  If the KB is a success, Nomads will have a lot to be proud of.  

Then don't you think something is terribly wrong? Riot Grrls the standard for linkable HI, seriously? To start with they're a unit uberbuffed and OP that deserves a slight nerf. And no way community can accept Frenzy units, that exploit an incompletely tested rule, are the standard of a link. Nomads ARE the medium infantry faction. They are supposed to be poor in the HI field, they got a small boost in that field, but that's it. KB are quite probably the last HI the faction will see.

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S 5 totally works for me in Nomads.

For me, S 5 means one of two things, either you need it because of the size advantages it brings, in which case you're loading crazy heavy weaponry on it, or you're using it because you've only got access to older Power Armour tech. See, PanO only use S 2 HI because it's more advanced, even ARM 5 is something they've miniaturized into the S 2 system. Yu Jing are the same, and only have the Yan Huo as S 5 because of the weaponry they've put on it, which is TAG scale essentially, so that's not a case of can we have a HI that's S 2 with ARM 5 and such, it's a case of "needs to be this big for the guns." These are the high tech, massive manufacturing base faction armours.

For the Nomads, you haven't got that. You can't be dropping the massive amount of resources you need into taking your Mobile Brigada suit and doing it up with all the systems you need for a truly elite regiment because you can't properly miniaturize them on the scale that's needed, or buy them on the market. So what you do is what the Nomads always do; take an outdated chassis, strip out all the system-ware, the software and so on. Go to the Praxis labs and get them to adapt their bleeding edge designs into old gen armour suits and then load up your S 5 armour with the latest in info-warfare defence, neural links, weapon systems etc. The Taskmaster suit is basically coming from the same generation of Heavy Armour as the Al Fasid and such, but it has Kinematic, a Pulzar, the Tinbot, can be used with Martial Arts etc because they've properly boosted all the systems that are strapped onto that big chunky suit of armour plates and servos.

The Kriza Boracs are the same, except from Tunguska. So they've got old suits and basically retrofitted the best shit to them, is what I can see. Basically exactly what they did with the old Reptile series of TAGs they bought off the market when PanO phased them out for G-Piloted models.

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36 minutes ago, Janzerker said:

Then don't you think something is terribly wrong? Riot Grrls the standard for linkable HI, seriously? To start with they're a unit uberbuffed and OP that deserves a slight nerf. And no way community can accept Frenzy units, that exploit an incompletely tested rule, are the standard of a link. Nomads ARE the medium infantry faction. They are supposed to be poor in the HI field, they got a small boost in that field, but that's it. KB are quite probably the last HI the faction will see.

We may have different interpretations of "the standard".  When i say that, I mean "the gold standard", the "absolute most powerful, balanced by low cost."  I also think Riot Grrrls are more powerful than they deserve to be, because of the Frenzy discount.  My original post was trying to say "whoa, Nomads were the MI faction, now they have so many great Heavy Infantry... That's strange."

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What Nomads lose in HI is basically variety. Because we have three. Soon four.

Of course, Riots are amazing as a link and Taskmasters are supremely badass, but there's no Hsien, no Swiss Guard, no Charontid, no KotHS, no Posthumans etc. Like, there's a lot of HI types that Nomads just don't have, it's just that if you look at types of HI they do have, they tend to be very solid and competitive. Even the MB is, like, you want a cheap HI with gun? Here is cheap HI with gun.

Nomads have very few HI, really.

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1 hour ago, Janzerker said:

Then don't you think something is terribly wrong? Riot Grrls the standard for linkable HI, seriously? To start with they're a unit uberbuffed and OP that deserves a slight nerf. And no way community can accept Frenzy units, that exploit an incompletely tested rule, are the standard of a link. Nomads ARE the medium infantry faction. They are supposed to be poor in the HI field, they got a small boost in that field, but that's it. KB are quite probably the last HI the faction will see.

They are poor in the HI field in terms of number, Nomads have 4 if you count the Iguana Pilot, 3 if you don't. Yu Jing have 15 HI. PanOceania have 14 HI. Freaking Ariadna has 7 HI. Just because Nomads are "The Medium Infantry faction" doesn't mean they can't have more than three HI. Nomads tie Combined Army for the second least HI in any vanilla faction, and beat Tohaa's one HI in the Ectros. 

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8 hours ago, Icchan said:

CB teases Kriza Borac's outline. Funny cylinder on his back.

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Baggage. Maybe Double Baggage. Check Chaskas.

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:lol:

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Might not be a backpack at all, could be a big spaceman / corinthian style helmet

Also, the best HI beats the most, and Riots are the best IMHO. Like Barakiel I'm not sure they should be, but happy to take them!

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only because of link bonuses. If I could link my Swiss Guards......

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31 minutes ago, Daboarder said:

only because of link bonuses. If I could link my Swiss Guards......

The game would be broken beyond remedy.

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1 hour ago, A Mão Esquerda said:

The game would be broken beyond remedy.

Would it?

You can't 5 link them at mid tier, even with just the Multi Rifle loadout,

You could field a 4 link with a specialist and both heavy weapons but maximum that's 7 regular orders.

You could field them as 3 or 2 man links and still have points to hit at least 10 orders and have decent support pieces, but you're still very all in  on a link that doesn't like DTWs, really doesn't like flamers, and at 3 man isn't really much harder for an MSV troop to engage than a Fusilier Core, all this theoretically at the expense of not fielding another core link.

And I'm not convinced it's that much worse than dealing with a Cutter/Sphinx/Avatar if you don't have MSV2+.

I agree giving them a Haris or Duo option might be a bit rich, but the opportunity cost of the Core link (even in neoterra where there's so few core options) would go a long way to balancing it.

P.S: I'm assuming they can't be linked while in HD since they aren't on the table so you can't meet the coherency requirements.

P.P.S: I don't actually wan't core linkable Swiss in the game.

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An odd link team with 2w apiece would not be fun for me to play against because they could peak corners my whole army away with barely a wound.  If they did catch a bullet they child 2 rotate back and march a fresh suit around corners to keep that +3bs and continue to win most roll offs. Best defenses to come to mind is total reaction or snag 1st turn and suppressive fire my whole army.   A tedious game,  not fun. 

 

Hi.  New poster. I created the account to ask,  what could they do with the HI to make it feel like Tunguska,  mafia meets crypto bankers?   I don't want just another well equipped s5. I'm picturing sensor and ss2 and repeater,  or a weapon so controversial it'd only come out of Praxis. A HI with triangulate fire intrigues me. 

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Sensor would be amazing. Grenzers already have it though.

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