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What the hell is happening to the Kamau.....?

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So running the numbers on the new Icestorm packs from the release thread.

Kamau HMG jumps a whopping 14 pts roughly from 24 to around 38.....

What in the blazes are they doing to that profile to justify that pts increase

My Hypothesis,

Its around 34 pts (not all the packs are exactly 300)

Slots in with the Nisse as a high class BS13 MI, meaning something its getting is equivalent in value to Mimetism+MSV2

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Given that Kamau are basically just futuristic SEAL teams, I'd honestly be okay with them basically being PanOceanian spetsnaz. Eclipse grenades, Marksmanship level 2 and Forward Deployment level 1. Smoke 'em out and shoot 'em down!

Yes I realise the chances of that happening are basically nil, but what the hell. Might as well go all out wishlisting!

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there is no way in hell they are gettting Mksm2 and eclipse. thats way more than those pts indicate

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1 hour ago, Daboarder said:

there is no way in hell they are gettting Mksm2 and eclipse. thats way more than those pts indicate

You think that would cost more than 14 points? I doubt it. The HMG spetsnaz is 38 points! He has CC ability and camo, while the Kamau would have BS, BTS, and eclipse. Seems reasonably priced. I don't think it's going to happen, but it's not that crazy points-wise.

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its more that its a "skill" based on the abilities of the person using it, whereas pano is always exemplified by their use of technology to get around issues. so its the Mkmn2 that I really dont see happening. and the eclipse to me is just the same old PanO pipe dream, hey maybe we'll get it this time, but after all other potential options have been exhausted im not holding out hope for this one

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Hmmn... interesting point.

Maybe it has something to do with this:

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im.....not sure of the relevance apart from that obviously being the promo for the new beyond sets

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1 minute ago, Daboarder said:

im.....not sure of the relevance apart from that obviously being the promo for the new beyond sets

*is trying to maintain a sense of mystery despite the many leaks*

Beyond?

What is this "beyond" you speak of?

:-P

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dude, come on, 

At best thats baiting people with tidbits of information and at worse its condescending. the information has been leaked and we are free to discuss the information that is in the public domain.

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14 minutes ago, Daboarder said:

dude, come on, 

At best thats baiting people with tidbits of information and at worse its condescending. the information has been leaked and we are free to discuss the information that is in the public domain.

*shrugs*

Well, it's a pretty image relevant to the Kamau.

Back to your regularly scheduled speculation.

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fair enough, I wasnt trying to be a bug bear mind, I get where you were coming from

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1 minute ago, Daboarder said:

fair enough, I wasnt trying to be a bug bear mind, I get where you were coming from

I think it's particularly relevant due to that not looking like any HMG in the PanOceania range...

But a LOT like our Multi-Sniper Rifles.

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If that's a MSR Kamau in the picture and the target is roughly 34 points, then the current Kamau profile is roughly an ODD away from being 34/1.5.

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i woudnt get hung up on the picture, the usarf one's weapons loadouts werent 100% accurate either

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Ok question as I might be missing something:

why someone would play Kamau ? They cost 60% more than fusiliers while only hm... good thing going for them is +1BS on very fragile platform ?

(obviously where Kamau will be there won't be any standard Fusiliers)

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well the current profile excels a both a spec fire platform lgl xvisor and a hacker bts6 wip13.

we have no idea what the new profiles are like

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7 hours ago, Daboarder said:

there is no way in hell they are gettting Mksm2 and eclipse. thats way more than those pts indicate

It could be eclipse only though. Personally i think it may be camo/mimitism and infiltration

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5 minutes ago, Daboarder said:

well the current profile excels a both a spec fire platform lgl xvisor and a hacker bts6 wip13.

we have no idea what the new profiles are like

Yea I was more talking in terms of links or something (I get it that those 2 profiles solo are very effective). 

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8 hours ago, Daboarder said:

So running the numbers on the new Icestorm packs from the release thread.
 

Could you link the thread please?

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First page of the august thread

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The Kamau makes sense for vanilla players. 

I'm more curious about the decision to give us an 8th/9th Bolt. I mean, besides the pat answer of "because CB wanted it this way." What was driving that decision? Thoughts?

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3 minutes ago, YoJamesBo said:

I'm more curious about the decision to give us an 8th/9th Bolt. I mean, besides the pat answer of "because CB wanted it this way." What was driving that decision? Thoughts?

Now everyone will have to buy extension box when they field Bolts paramedic on tournament....

 

... oh wait .....

 

On serious notes: mayby they needed points to add up and bolt was only unit which made sense (other choice could only be Bag-Mari, PanO don't have that many ~20 pts specialists). 

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2 minutes ago, Eciu said:

On serious notes: mayby they needed points to add up and bolt was only unit which made sense (other choice could only be Bag-Mari, PanO don't have that many ~20 pts specialists). 

I was crunching numbers yesterday with exactly that thought in mind. 

It's impossible to figure out without knowing whether/how much the Kamau's cost has gone up. But it could well be that their decision to stuff the Swiss in coupled with a mandate to include every kind of specialist backed them into a corner. 

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1 minute ago, YoJamesBo said:

I was crunching numbers yesterday with exactly that thought in mind. 

It's impossible to figure out without knowing whether/how much the Kamau's cost has gone up. But it could well be that their decision to stuff the Swiss in coupled with a mandate to include every kind of specialist backed them into a corner. 

That does say a lot about PanO doesn't it.

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2 hours ago, Eciu said:

Ok question as I might be missing something:

why someone would play Kamau ? They cost 60% more than fusiliers while only hm... good thing going for them is +1BS on very fragile platform ?

Because they're going to get new profiles at some point (I would assume with the release of the new model) that seem (from the points cost) to be very different from the existing profile.

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