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1 minute ago, Mahtamori said:

I think prone penalty is more about not being able to manage bulk. Lying flat just isn't in the options.

That said, suggestion for TAG going prone: S6->S3, S7->S4, S8->no. Bulky, but still a silhouette improvement when trying to hide.

S8-S5? not a really big improvement, but realistic?

 

Regarding the "not prone capable", i would probably tie it to the "heavyweight" skill. it makes sense that if you're bulky enough not to pass easily into doors, you could have problem to drop low.

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36 minutes ago, Darkvortex87 said:

 

Regarding the "not prone capable", i would probably tie it to the "heavyweight" skill. it makes sense that if you're bulky enough not to pass easily into doors, you could have problem to drop low.

I could agree with you but... Blackjacks need more love in this days... :P ;) 

 

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39 minutes ago, Darkvortex87 said:

S8-S5? not a really big improvement, but realistic?

Different base diameter :) Which, incidentally, is also a flaw in my post. Going to S4 for all TAGs smaller than S8 makes more sense. (Though, admittedly, this might also be incorrect since I'm posting while ridiculously tired.)

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10 hours ago, Darkvortex87 said:

Dodge penality (the slow reaction times to dodge) is because of size/momentum? or because of servomotors? Or both?

I think the best point brought up so far is the fact that the PH stat itself is used in a variety of ways and those ways make more sense being equal on some profiles than others.  TAGs have a very high PH stat, but if they actually dodged at that stat, I think there'd be problems.

It's probably safe to say that CB wanted to give TAGs high damage in CC without increasing their surviveability by the same amount.  They decided to do this by giving a penalty to dodge instead of a boost to CC damage.  I mean, what looks better for a large troop type like a TAG: "PH 16 with -6 to dodge" or "PH 10 with +6 to CC damage"?

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3 minutes ago, Teslarod said:

Am I the only one who is like really reaaaaally glad CB isn't flooding every faction with "moar bigger is more gud cuz reasons" models who don't make sense? Actually very impressed they haven't given in to the temptation to pull that crap so far. Same for powercreep, compared to a lot of other manufacturers CB seems to be able to stick to some important designrules. Wasting S8 on a single model is fine, better than suddenly having 5 of them.

This whole section is nonsense. Hey, remember scale creep? Cause that's a thing.

Same with power creep. We're seeing it right now with the forthcoming book's stuff, like Full Auto and Fatality being tied to those specific units.

3 minutes ago, Teslarod said:

Boring or calm poses (matter of perspective, really) make for a more professional soldier style look, personal preference, sure - but I'm a fan.

I'm a fan too, but it has also led to so much repetition that it becomes nonsense in some regards.

3 minutes ago, Teslarod said:

I'm completely in on the WTF train regarding the Blackjack model vs it's profile. Individually they're okay, together there is something wrong.

There really isn't.

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Haven't they said they wanted to do more mini-TAG models, or do the Taskmasters etc. count for that?

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1 hour ago, Mahtamori said:

Haven't they said they wanted to do more mini-TAG models, or do the Taskmasters etc. count for that?

No idea, but wouldn't mini-TAGS be S6 not S5?

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3 hours ago, Mahtamori said:

Haven't they said they wanted to do more mini-TAG models, or do the Taskmasters etc. count for that?

Honestly, who knows at this point?

I do hope we see some S5 HI for Tohaa though.

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3 hours ago, Mahtamori said:

Haven't they said they wanted to do more mini-TAG models, or do the Taskmasters etc. count for that?

I'd imagine it would, since the only places more light TAGs would likely come are PanO and ALEPH, with other factions simply getting more interesting S5 troops.

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I like how they've added more S5 units. It gives more varied designs/units in faction, and are easily recognizable. I know some will say, "It makes all the factions samey." I don't agree, as the different S5s look very different from one another, and I don't see anyone confusing any cross faction wise. 

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26 minutes ago, BaleWolf said:

I like how they've added more S5 units. It gives more varied designs/units in faction, and are easily recognizable. I know some will say, "It makes all the factions samey." I don't agree, as the different S5s look very different from one another, and I don't see anyone confusing any cross faction wise. 

Additionally, since there is also at least one faction that likely won't get any S5 units, there's plenty of variety.

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1 minute ago, Barakiel said:

Eh.  Scale creep doesn't have anything to do with the conversation.

As for Power Creep, I agree that the rules are leading in that direction.  However, I also think there's a reason for it.  The ITS requirements for this season are putting some emphasis back on the performance of single models.  The three major beneficiaries of those rules you mentioned are Nomads, Haqq, and all TAGs.  Nomads and Haqq are actually notorious for their lack of single rambo pieces, so it makes sense that a season emphasizing Data Trackers would want those two factions to have strong-performing solo units.

Similarly, last season emphasized TAGs wonderfully, but now we're away from TAGLine this season.  CB doesn't want to see TAGs rendered null again, so +1 Damage from Fatality is good incentive and addresses the long-time disconnect that bigger guns apparently don't fire bigger rounds.

In all three cases, I haven't seen these units become "must take".  I think the units that received those rules are now viable options, rather than underpowered ones.  

And that remains the beauty of Infinity.  The number of "must take" units (in my eyes) can be counted on one hand, at most, and the old adage, "it's not your list, it's you" is still mostly true.  At the same time, CB isn't afraid to mix things up to bring more units to the fore, be it for just one season or longer.

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Today CB showed us why Bit and Kiss are part of CA:

New fluff:

[Downloading report]

The Anti-establishment Group ALIVE was finally captured by PanOceanian forces. The hyper power was quick to make the announcement with an almost insulting arrogance. Another goal reached before any other competitor; another achievement showing their strength and power; a new success keeping PanOceania on top.

However, this victory left a bitter taste when the convoy transporting the ALIVE group to a PanOceanian prison was attacked by a Combined Army patrol. The vehicle carrying the prisoners was hit by a projectile and destroyed. During the brawl, the aliens took a vociferous Bit, traumatized by the view of her friends’ dead bodies torn to pieces. Our escort managed to repel the attack, but they could not follow the patrol through the dense jungle to rescue the young hacker. I can attest that the bodies of her two colleagues were so mangled that they were far beyond the possibility of being recovered from their Cubes.

I do not know for certain the fate of the unfortunate Bit, who did seem to be seriously injured when the Combined Army troops took her. The only thing I am sure of is that our vehicle managed to cross the jungle and that I am still breathing.

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That would be a fun mission to re create on the table.

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5 hours ago, Kanluwen said:

Yawn. Boooooring...

How often do you play Infinity? Do you like the game?

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1 minute ago, Whale said:

How often do you play Infinity? Do you like the game?

I do like the game. Thanks for asking. I play every few weekends with a few people that I live near, since the main shop that has Infinity is a good car ride away and seems to have a much less active community these days.
 

But that's not what you're really asking, is it?

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You dont sound like you do....you sound like my old 40k playing self. Trust me youll be happier when you go elsewhere

personally, im SUPER keen to see more sepsitorised tentacled up humans, a little cthullu girl and her bugbot would be an auto buy for me and i dont play CA

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2 hours ago, Kanluwen said:

I do like the game. Thanks for asking. I play every few weekends with a few people that I live near, since the main shop that has Infinity is a good car ride away and seems to have a much less active community these days.
 

But that's not what you're really asking, is it?

Right. You don't play the game very much but you do post a lot of complaints on the forums. You will be happier if you stop posting on the forum. I know I will be, which is 50% of the reason I'm writing this. It is time to pack up your username and move on. Social media can generate a negative experience for many reasons. You have to keep up with your attacks and make sure you defend yourself whenever you've been offended. So, you and I will both be happier if you stop posting. Do we have a deal?

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Please calm down and remember to be polite with other posters.

 

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Well, after a carefully analysis, my conclusion is that BlackJack is the ultimate evolution of AMP suit of Avatar XD 

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