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What USAriadna profile would you like to see?

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Just now, BaleWolf said:

Let me know when these wolves with shotguns and chain rifles can form link teams in USAr to replace guys with HMGs, sniper rifles and specialists and we'll be all set then.

Updated my post btw. :)

For sure it is doable, right now I'm heavily playing NCA with single or zero HI. Quite vialable and fun to do (and I dont have smoke or WB to effectivly enter enemy DZ). 

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2 minutes ago, Eciu said:

For sure it is doable, right now I'm heavily playing NCA with single or zero HI. Quite vialable and fun to do (and I dont have smoke or WB to effectivly enter enemy DZ). 

Neat! I do the same thing. Almost none of my lists in any army have HI. I can also win with Grunts, Marauders or Minutemen. It doesn't change the fact that I'd like Minutemen to have a psuedo second wound in the USAr wishlisting thread discussing profiles that we'd like to see.

As it stands, we are paying more points for 4-4 movement, losing dogged and gaining E/M vulnerability, over 4-2 movement and forward deployment. It just seems off to me. I would be very happy to spend the extra points to give them NWI.

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9 hours ago, BaleWolf said:

Neat! I do the same thing. Almost none of my lists in any army have HI. I can also win with Grunts, Marauders or Minutemen. It doesn't change the fact that I'd like Minutemen to have a psuedo second wound in the USAr wishlisting thread discussing profiles that we'd like to see.

As it stands, we are paying more points for 4-4 movement, losing dogged and gaining E/M vulnerability, over 4-2 movement and forward deployment. It just seems off to me. I would be very happy to spend the extra points to give them NWI.

Don't forget Marauders have better WIP too...

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Dogged is really good on marauders... Actually the main reason why I prefer them over mimutemans... 

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Unknown Ranger gains Shock/Bioimmunity

Airborne Rangers gain an Engineer profile

Blackjack with Autocannon. Blackjack's all gain Fatality 1.

Foxtrot profile with Minelayer.

 

Minutemen just need to be cheaper. They're way overpriced for only having 1 wound and arm3. Compare them to some real heavy infantry and they're big losers.

The basic Minuteman is 22 points for BS13, Arm3, wip12, 1 wound, multi-terrain, and shock immunity. He has a rifle and two light flamethrowers.

The basic Zuyong is 27 points for BS13, arm3, bts3, wip13, 2 wounds. He has a combi-rifle and 2 Breaker pistols.

That 5 points gets you way more than the difference in profiles and loadout should get you.

The basic Riot Grrl is 29 points for Bs13, wip13, arm3, bts3, 2 wounds. She has MSV1, Hyperdynamics1, Combi, Blitzen, and Stun grenades. 

I think CB way overvalues being non-hackable. Only having 1 wound should get us a discount equivalent to the stupid Frenzy discount Riot Grrls get. The basic Riot Grrl costs the same as a Minuteman with Marksmanship1 and Ap Rifle. That's just ridiculous.

 

Either give Ariadna Heavy Infantry all NWI or an actual second wound. Or make up a heck of a lot cheaper.

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7 hours ago, grey templar said:

Unknown Ranger gains Shock/Bioimmunity

Airborne Rangers gain an Engineer profile

Blackjack with Autocannon. Blackjack's all gain Fatality 1.

Foxtrot profile with Minelayer.

 

Minutemen just need to be cheaper. They're way overpriced for only having 1 wound and arm3. Compare them to some real heavy infantry and they're big losers.

The basic Minuteman is 22 points for BS13, Arm3, wip12, 1 wound, multi-terrain, and shock immunity. He has a rifle and two light flamethrowers.

The basic Zuyong is 27 points for BS13, arm3, bts3, wip13, 2 wounds. He has a combi-rifle and 2 Breaker pistols.

That 5 points gets you way more than the difference in profiles and loadout should get you.

The basic Riot Grrl is 29 points for Bs13, wip13, arm3, bts3, 2 wounds. She has MSV1, Hyperdynamics1, Combi, Blitzen, and Stun grenades. 

I think CB way overvalues being non-hackable. Only having 1 wound should get us a discount equivalent to the stupid Frenzy discount Riot Grrls get. The basic Riot Grrl costs the same as a Minuteman with Marksmanship1 and Ap Rifle. That's just ridiculous.

 

Either give Ariadna Heavy Infantry all NWI or an actual second wound. Or make up a heck of a lot cheaper.

The black jack right now it's really good, the autocannon is cool and all but the t2 sniper grants you a good range in turn 1. Also i prefer the current price rather than the addition of fatality. The current profile is awesome, take a look at the Haqq S5 and you will see why.

Foxtrot minelayer is a nonsense. first of all because it could easily brake balance for vanilla ariadna, also why do you want minelayers when you have the cheapest FO infiltrator, and the hard case to spam camos and shotguns?

Minutemen are a little bit unattractive but not because the marauder core but because you loose the option of making the grunt core with the extra haris, Also they are quite risky to field against templates, EM, etc. In their defence i must say they are really really good at shoting down stuff during the active turn and its posible to fit them in a 18+ orders list, additionally the FO can be useful improvised aro pieces due the excellent range of the flash pulse + link bonuses.

But yes at the end of the day the grunt core + the marauder haris is the way to go, its a shame because i really like the minutemen miniatures, if they had a haris profile ... now that could be quite interesting ...

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All I'd really like is as many have said, is a Minutemen Haris profile. And unrelated to minutemen, maybe a Autocannon profile, would like to see it have sapper as well. But that may be more suited to a unit in FRRM. As they seem to have plenty of access to Sapper.

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And just in general for Ariadna, I'd like to see a model with Hidden Deployment. Not TO, just hidden deployment. And probably regular camo too.

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I just want simple things... an Ohio paramedic, Grunt Molotok, Airborne Ranger Engineer. But really what I want is: Unknown + Grunts core (even just the Molotok version), Ohio Duo/Haris, Maverick Duo, Blackjack Duo (Or Haris with some other unit, like 1-2 Ohio + Blackjack). Overall I find the profiles good, but the links could use some more variety.

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Unknown Ranger would actually be quite fluffy to join any USAriadna link.

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Some really outstanding suggestions here. I personally would love to see more duo in general in Ariadna. And as much as I do love Minutemen. They really just don't hold up as strongly as Marauders. All of the other Ariadnan heavy infantry actually could use some boosts, to at least make them an option to compete against Vet Kazaks. I would adore seeing NWI on minutemen, probably wouldn't even be much of a point bump considering how expensive they already are. I think it'd keep them in theme with the rest of USAriadnan infantry and their focus on durability. And with NWI not having a in unit paramedic wouldn't be as big of a deal.

A hardcase with an Ojotnik would be an amazing profile too. I really feel that that gun shouldn't be so exclusive to just the scouts. It's basically just a really nice bolt action rifle. He'd really jump up in cost but he'd be a great little ambush sniper.

Shock immunity on the unknown ranger would be amazing, wouldn't be quite as fragile. I do think it isn't bad for a unit to havea  weakness. But considering the units he's based on it's really odd he doesn't have shock immunity. A third profile though with the ability to link would be alot of fun. Could add a really nasty punch a link team, strangely enough I see this profile having number 2. even though he'd probably be the primary combatant of the team.

I'd like to see Devil Dogs get access to frag grenades or MA1. they are the only Dog Warrior that doesn't get frags or a second chain rifle, and I think it's a huge detriment to them. Yeah they have the option to take the big shotgun, but it's very expensive and doesn't compliment what he already can do. And though flavorful aquatic terrain is a huge joke. actually I don't think I've ever really seen anyone put any sort of difficult terrain on boards save for areas of Zero G or a tiny smattering of forests.

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It comes up in Rescue (he won't be slowed down by the band of difficult terrain) but that's about it. DD is my least favorite profile in US (and Ariadna as a whole - which is a shame, the model is quite purty when done right).

 

 

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