mantanza

200 point list for Supplies ITS

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GROUP 1sep.gifsep.giforden_regular.png10  
logo_2.pngODALISQUE (Fireteam: Haris) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
logo_2.pngODALISQUE Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 30)
logo_4.pngHAFZA (Forward Observer) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17)
logo_1.pngGHULAM HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 20)
logo_1.pngGHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
logo_1.pngGHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
logo_1.pngGHULAM Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
logo_1.pngGHULAM Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
logo_10.pngHAWWA' (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
logo_7.pngDJANBAZAN HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 35)

4 SWC | 200 Points

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So this is the list I am thinking of taking to game night.  Feels like trying to get a full 10 orders in is good.  I wish I could get a Ghulam Missile Launcher, but I just can't seem to give up the Djan HMG.

3 Specialists to score with, one Inf with camo.  other 2 in link teams.  

Any thoughts?

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Really solid. Nothing I would change if you would like to play with two link teams.

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Yeah, it's pretty solid and the idea of having 10 orders is always good. You definitely can fight with this.
But if you want some brainstorming... the Supplies scenario is one of the "first come, first served type", so it's preferable to have more infiltrating specialists to quickly take the Supply Boxes and withdraw. And I'd think about loosing Haris for taking another Hawwa. Hacker. Especially that there's 2 classified objectives to do, and you have only 2 types of specialists.
And having only 1 good range weapon in the biggest link looks for me like unused potential ;)
Maybe at least Leila instead of someone? She's a hacker with good weapon and D-Charges.
And you can always loose one more expensive troop to take Yuan Yuan. Their great to wreak havoc and help in taking objectives (smoke grenades! :) ).

So, that's some thoughts from me :)

 

PozdRawiam / Greetings
 

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If we are to go down that alley - why not go for 3 al'Hawwa (if memory serves me, they're AVA 3 in QK)? Say, a Hacker and 2 FOs.

Of course, this reduces the Ghilim to basically cheerleading & long-range support, because with operating an al'Hawwa trio you're going to burn through your Order stack pretty quickly, and thus there won't be much left for other troops. In such a case, I'd suggest taking a Shihab REM, too, and getting the Ghilim another long-ranged weapon or two (ML, Sniper Rifles - personally, I'd even consider dropping the HMG to facilitate extra SR in such a case).

Can't access Army now, so sorry, I won't be giving a complete list :(

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20 minutes ago, Errhile said:

If we are to go down that alley - why not go for 3 al'Hawwa (if memory serves me, they're AVA 3 in QK)? Say, a Hacker and 2 FOs.

True.

A fast Army created with the idea to take 3 Hawwas and still leave Djan in the list ;)

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GROUP 1sep.gifsep.giforden_regular.pngorden_irregular.pngorden_impetuosa.png1
logo_10.pngHAWWA' Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 26)
logo_10.pngHAWWA' (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
logo_10.pngHAWWA' (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
logo_25.pngLEILA SHARIF Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
logo_1.pngGHULAM Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 17)
logo_1.pngGHULAM Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 16)
logo_1.pngGHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
logo_1.pngGHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
logo_7.pngDJANBAZAN HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 35)
logo_11.pngYUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 8)

GROUP 2sep.gifsep.giforden_irregular.pngorden_impetuosa.png1
logo_11.pngYUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 8)

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Fast attack group  - Hawwas to take the objectives and withdraw, maybe with coordinated orders ;)
Ghulam link to ARO hard and Leila as a specialist.

Djanbazan HMG to hunt camo and one Yuan (from the second group) to be put in the deployment zone and give Djan the smoke screen.

The second Yuan to wreak havoc, as always ;)
Or you can take another regular guy instead of YYs.


PozdRawiam / Greetings

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It's actually pretty difficult to take two supply boxes *and* run them both back to your deployment zone on turn 1, especially at only 200 points (where most players won't have 20 orders with an infiltrating specialist in each group). That means if you go second you just need a hard-hitting short-range killer to take out the infiltrators with the supply box and grab it back...which you have in the Oda Haris.

If you go first your single hawwa should be plenty because you won't have enough orders to grab two boxes and bring them both all the way back to your deployment zone anyway. Getting one should be enough to keep the game close.

You are lacking pieces to overwatch the boxes, though. If you could find a way to squeeze out another 2 points you could make your ghulam forward observors. Since the supply boxes are all within 24" of the deployment zone, that puts your WIP 17 burst 2 flash pulses at good range, giving you an extremely good chance of shutting down any first turn attempts to take supply boxes, and forcing your opponent to waste orders dealing with your ghulam before going for the boxes.  I would probably downgrade the Djan to a sniper, or maybe even a shock marksman rifle to get the points. Then I'd hold him in reserve to counter-deploy against wherever I suspected my opponent was going to try and throw smoke on a supply box. I'd use him as a sacrificial lamb turn 1 in order to prevent my opponent from using smoke and infiltrators to get a supply box back to their deployment zone.

 

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Thanks for everyone's feedback.  I am going to play this tonight I will let you all know how it goes.  I agree with needing to get a couple more ARO pieces so I might change it a touch but we will see.

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So ended up modifying my list slightly to the below list.  It worked out pretty well.  Loosing the FO on the Hafza was probably a mistake, but I couldn't find the points to do what I wanted otherwise. 

The Ghulam link did fine, for a cheap link they seems decent but they also felt like a not very strong link.  No special tricks, pretty low starting BS.  But they held off my opponent well enough.

The Djan seemed pretty lack luster, but that could be because my opponent had nimbus smoke everywhere, so that didn't help.

The Odalisque seemed solid, and I am looking forward to playing with this Harris team more.  

 

It is funny playing Haqq (as a noob) it has become apparent that when I do well is typically when I get in and really take advantage of those shotguns.  I have won a couple of mission just on the back of them.  The big +6 to hit and clipping a couple of models just seems HUGE.

Thanks again for everyone's advice and why they chose the models they did. 

 

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GROUP 1sep.gifsep.giforden_regular.png10  
logo_2.pngODALISQUE (Fireteam: Haris) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
logo_2.pngODALISQUE Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 30)
logo_4.pngHAFZA Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
logo_1.pngGHULAM HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 20)
logo_1.pngGHULAM Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 16)
logo_1.pngGHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
logo_1.pngGHULAM (Forward Observer) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
logo_1.pngGHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
logo_10.pngHAWWA' (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
logo_7.pngDJANBAZAN Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 31)

3.5 SWC | 200 Points

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1 hour ago, mantanza said:

The Ghulam link did fine, for a cheap link they seems decent but they also felt like a not very strong link.  No special tricks, pretty low starting BS.  But they held off my opponent well enough.

But that's one of the huge advantages of it: Ghilim make for inexpensive, well-equipped fireteams. That's their special trick. Secondary special trick I'd consider Ghulam Doctor: a WIP 14 Doctor for 17pts? Most factions would kill for one. And she's Doc Plus on top of that: in temrs of cost-effectiveness, she's among thebest in the game, if not the best.

Their BS isn't low: it is average. Most basic Light Infantry troops are BS 11 (except for the PanOs, but there BS is the factional advantage). Plus, with a full fireteam and appropriate range, it jumps up considerably.

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