SirSagrell

A Return - More ideas to get me painting!

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I recently posted about a Nomad list that I had been working on for my return to Infinity... Though it's hard for me to think about Infinity without writing a few Pan-O lists... Especially as I have an unpainted Cutter.  I've been writing quite a few Nomad lists as I love the new Szalamandra that is to be released... but how can I dedicate painting time to the re-sculpt when I have a Cutter sitting in my case.... and UNPAINTED?  I wrote a few lists based on models that I wanted to paint (as my current group has been focused on another game recently, but a few of us will be working on Infinity soon) for Pan-O, and as always (mostly) I have settled on Vanilla lists to allow models that I want.  To match a theme that I wanted to paint, I wanted to go with an army that was hard to hit and include some staple models that I've always been keen on.  This is what I've come up with:

GROUP 1sep.gifsep.giforden_regular.png10  
logo_12.pngCUTTER MULTI HMG / . (2.5 | 115)
 sep.giflogo_12.pngCRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. ()
logo_48.pngKAMAU HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 28)
logo_13.pngCROC MAN (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 32)
logo_35.pngBULLETEER Heavy Shotgun / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17)
logo_35.pngBULLETEER Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 23)
logo_1.pngFUSILIER (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
logo_1.pngFUSILIER (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
logo_1.pngFUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
logo_1000.pngINDIGO Spec-Ops (12 XP) (WIP:13, Engineer, CH: Mimetism, Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
logo_47.pngBROTHER KONSTANTINOS Specialist (Infiltration) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, CCW. (0 | 34)

GROUP 2sep.gifsep.giforden_irregular.png1  
logo_50.pngWARCOR (Sixth Sense L1) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)

4.5 SWC | 296 Points

Here is my thinking:

Cutter - Let's face it, we all love the cutter.  It's one of the original models that has stood the test of time, and is a fantastic model/profile... and I have kept some SWC free to be able to switch him over to an LT version if I want.

Kamau w/HMG - an amazing model that comes in the new BOI box... he has a great profile, Mimetism (to fit the theme) and an HMG that lets him hang back if need be.

Croc Man - I have an unpainted MSR model where I have trimmed down the barrel to depict a Combi version of this profile. A TO:Camo model that also provides a specialist profile and is an awesome model... why not include him?

Bulleteers - just amazing bot models that are super useful.  Having the flex to field a shotgun and a spitfire from the same purchase is super intriguing... plus the ODD makes them harder to hit like most of my models

Brother Kon - A second infiltrator that also has Mimetism, and has the opportunity to fill the normal CC gap of vanilla lists... yes please.  Also, such a great model.

Spec-Ops - SOOOOOO many conversion options, and gaming flex to fill my needs.  I just hope my new group will allow me to take one.

Fusiliers - Cheerleaders / Additional Specialits / LT... needed to fill orders some and profiles some way.  Also, the starter box models are fantastic...

 

Let me know what you think, what swaps you might make, and what models you love that might get you to continue painting!

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3 hours ago, SirSagrell said:

Brother Kon - A second infiltrator that also has Mimetism, and has the opportunity to fill the normal CC gap of vanilla lists... yes please.  Also, such a great model.

Spec-Ops - SOOOOOO many conversion options, and gaming flex to fill my needs.  I just hope my new group will allow me to take one.

 

Hello and welcome, sorry to tell you that dose 2 cant be in the same list, under Brother Konstantinos there is a note about it, but dont worry, its good, because most metas dont allow for spec-ops anyway.

You will love Varuna dude, LOVE IT !

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As I posted in the TAG thread, its really easy to build a list with a fully kitted out Kamau link and a Cutter.

logo_101.png PanOceania
──────────────────────────────────────────────────

orden_regular.png7  
logo_12.pngCUTTER Lieutenant MULTI HMG / . (3 | 115)
 sep.giflogo_12.pngCRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. ()
logo_48.pngKAMAU (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32)
logo_48.pngKAMAU Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 23)
logo_48.pngKAMAU (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
logo_48.pngKAMAU (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
logo_48.pngKAMAU (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
logo_15.pngMACHINIST Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
logo_37.pngPALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

6 SWC | 251 Points

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Varuna will be glorious indeed.

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1 hour ago, Make PanO Great Again :P said:

Hello and welcome, sorry to tell you that dose 2 cant be in the same list, under Brother Konstantinos there is a note about it, but dont worry, its good, because most metas dont allow for spec-ops anyway.

You will love Varuna dude, LOVE IT !

How would you swap out Brother Kon? For some reason that really slipped right by me...

27 minutes ago, Death said:

As I posted in the TAG thread, its really easy to build a list with a fully kitted out Kamau link and a Cutter.

logo_101.png PanOceania
──────────────────────────────────────────────────

orden_regular.png7  
logo_12.pngCUTTER Lieutenant MULTI HMG / . (3 | 115)
 sep.giflogo_12.pngCRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. ()
logo_48.pngKAMAU (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32)
logo_48.pngKAMAU Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 23)
logo_48.pngKAMAU (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
logo_48.pngKAMAU (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
logo_48.pngKAMAU (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
logo_15.pngMACHINIST Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
logo_37.pngPALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

6 SWC | 251 Points

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Varuna will be glorious indeed.

phew... 7 orders.  I think I almost had a panic attack looking at this list.  Have you tried out this beast, or something close to it?  I would love to know how it played.

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I forgot to mention that theres still 49 points left. So its real easy to have a full 10 orders as well. I haven't tried it out, I'll wait till the sectorial comes out. But damn, it will be awesome.

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1 minute ago, Death said:

I forgot to mention that theres still 49 points left. So its real easy to have have a full 10 orders as well. I haven't tried it out, I'll wait till the sectorial comes out. But damn, it will be awesome.

Yeah I jumped the gun there... that is a lot of room to fit models in and to see what the sectoral will provide 

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This is another version of models I've put together:

GROUP 1sep.gifsep.giforden_regular.png10  
logo_1.pngFUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
logo_1.pngFUSILIER (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
logo_1.pngFUSILIER (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
logo_12.pngCUTTER MULTI HMG / . (2.5 | 115)
 sep.giflogo_12.pngCRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. ()
logo_48.pngKAMAU HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 28)
logo_35.pngBULLETEER Heavy Shotgun / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17)
logo_35.pngBULLETEER Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 23)
logo_13.pngCROC MAN (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 32)
logo_1000.pngINDIGO Spec-Ops (12 XP) (WIP:13, Doctor, Engineer, CH: Mimetism) Combi Rifle, Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
logo_36.pngPEACEMAKER Spitfire + AUXBOT_3 / Electric Pulse. (1 | 27)
 sep.giflogo_36.pngAUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)

GROUP 2sep.gifsep.giforden_irregular.png1  
logo_49.pngBOUNTY HUNTER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)

5.5 SWC | 300 Points

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12 hours ago, SirSagrell said:

How would you swap out Brother Kon? For some reason that really slipped right by me...

Loose the Spec-ops, keep Konstantinos, if you let the spec become a clutch your game is going to suffer every time you play an ITS, plus konstantinos is your only visor.

I used this list not so long ago, was trying to emulate a Varuna list, its not legal (my opponent agree to let me play it out of curiosity), it goes one over the AVA on the kamau and they are linked..... so make changes before yo try to use it. But the results where AMAZING.

logo_101.png PanOceanía
──────────────────────────────────────────────────

orden_regular.png10  
logo_12.pngCUTTER Ametralladora MULTI / . (2.5 | 115)
 sep.giflogo_12.pngCRABBOT Pulso Flash / Cuchillo. (0)
logo_13.pngCROC MAN (Minador) Fusil Combi, Minas Antipersona / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0.5 | 31)
logo_13.pngCROC MAN Fusil Combi, Minas Antipersona / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 30)
logo_48.pngKAMAU (Oberv. de Artillería) Fusil Combi / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 21)
logo_48.pngKAMAU (Visor Multiespectral N2) F. de Francotirador MULTI / Pistola, Cuchillo. (1.5 | 32)
logo_48.pngKAMAU Lanzacohetes Pesado, Subfusil / Pistola, Cuchillo. (1.5 | 23)
logo_1.pngFUSILERO Teniente Fusil Combi / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 10)
logo_15.pngMAQUINISTA Fusil Combi, Cargas-D / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 15)
logo_37.pngPALBOT Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 3)
logo_37.pngPALBOT Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 3)
logo_19.pngFUGAZI DRONBOT Pulso Flash, Sniffer / Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 8)
logo_19.pngFUGAZI DRONBOT Pulso Flash, Sniffer / Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 8)

6 CAP | 299 Puntos

Abrir en Infinity Army

 

Try with this, it looks right up your ally and fun as hell (god we need f*cking smoke)

logo_101.png PanOceanía
──────────────────────────────────────────────────

orden_regular.png10  
logo_12.pngCUTTER Ametralladora MULTI / . (2.5 | 115)
 sep.giflogo_12.pngCRABBOT Pulso Flash / Cuchillo. (0)
logo_13.pngCROC MAN (Minador) Fusil Combi, Minas Antipersona / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0.5 | 31)
logo_13.pngCROC MAN (Minador) Fusil Combi, Minas Antipersona / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0.5 | 31)
logo_47.pngHERMANO KONSTANTINOS ESP. (Infiltración) Fusil Combi, Cargas-D / Pistola de Asalto, Arma CC. (0 | 34)
logo_48.pngKAMAU (Visor Multiespectral N2) F. de Francotirador MULTI / Pistola, Cuchillo. (1.5 | 32)
logo_15.pngMAQUINISTA Fusil Combi, Cargas-D / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 15)
logo_37.pngPALBOT Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 3)
logo_37.pngPALBOT Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 3)
logo_19.pngFUGAZI DRONBOT Pulso Flash, Sniffer / Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 8)
logo_19.pngFUGAZI DRONBOT Pulso Flash, Sniffer / Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 8)
logo_1.pngFUSILERO Teniente Fusil Combi / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 10)
logo_1.pngFUSILERO Fusil Combi  / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 10)

5 CAP | 300 Puntos

Abrir en Infinity Army

 

Its not meant to be played in a botton pushing mission, just a friendly fist cuff affair with a fellow gentleman who didn't agree in the supremacy of the only true hyperpower 

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On 12/2/2017 at 7:27 PM, Make PanO Great Again :P said:

Hello and welcome, sorry to tell you that dose 2 cant be in the same list, under Brother Konstantinos there is a note about it, but dont worry, its good, because most metas dont allow for spec-ops anyway.

This list gets the green check mark on Army. 

logo_101.png PanOceania
──────────────────

orden_regular.png4  
logo_1.pngFUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
logo_1000.pngINDIGO Spec-Ops (12 XP) (BS:13, CH: Mimetism) Combi Rifle, MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
logo_46.pngBIPANDRA Combi Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 24)
logo_47.pngBROTHER KONSTANTINOS Specialist (Infiltration) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, CCW. (0 | 34)

0.5 SWC | 78 Points

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On 12/2/2017 at 9:10 PM, SirSagrell said:

How would you swap out Brother Kon? For some reason that really slipped right by me...

Spec ops or not you should replace Konstantinos anyway since a fragile forward deployment unit with no marker state won't last long without proper support. 

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Are you reading this CB?  Lots of excitement for Varuna... 

It's worth mentioning just what an awesome unit the solo Kamau HMG is.  I strongly dislike Vanilla PanO, but configurations like Cutter/Crocs/Kamau is a really strong thematic incentive to put Vanilla PanO on the table.  I'm even thinking about running Varuna themed PanO in an escalation league, since these Varuna themed units would be pretty fun in small games.  I'm curious about how much army twisting it will take for my opponents to let me run AVA5 linkable Kamau.

But the Kamau HMG is a serious bargain.  4-4 MOV, Mimetism, elite Ballistic Skill at that point range is a good example of the nice things that PanO gets.

I know there's been some debate about whether the value presented by Kamau in Varuna will outweigh simply taking linked Fusiliers.  I personally would love to see a Kamau boarding shotgun or submachine profile to help differentiate the two units.  But I suppose the Kamau's MSV2 Sniper loadout helps achieve that.  

 

 

Regarding the lists, I really like the presence of Minelayer in any TAG list.  There's huge value in being able to keep Camo tokens, warbands, Repeaters, etc. at bay.  Most of the major threats to a Cutter have to get really close to do so, so I think units with mines are pretty key in supporting that TAG.

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1 hour ago, Barakiel said:

me debate about whether the value presented by Kamau in Varuna will outweigh simply taking linked Fusiliers.  I personally would love to see a Kamau boarding shotgun or submachine profile to help differentiate the two units.  But I suppose the Kamau's MSV2 Sniper loadout helps achieve that.  

I think you missed that the Kamau LGL is an army 6 typo and the actual weapons are a HRL + SMG. So we already got a submachine profile.

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51 minutes ago, Death said:

I think you missed that the Kamau LGL is an army 6 typo and the actual weapons are a HRL + SMG. So we already got a submachine profile.

Yep, confirmed, thats why i uploaded the list in spanish where it works fine.

But i think @Barakielis talking about a just submachingun or just boarding shotgun to alleviate the point burden of a 5 man link.

 

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1 hour ago, Death said:

I think you missed that the Kamau LGL is an army 6 typo and the actual weapons are a HRL + SMG. So we already got a submachine profile.

Yeah, @Make PanO Great Again :P knows what I mean.  I'm excited for the HRL/SMG profile for sure, but I'd love Kamau to have a "filler" profile with a short-range emphasis that would set them apart from Fusiliers.

I just think that a link of Kamau SMGs, sporting similar design elements to the M7 from the Halo games, would look awesome.

Still, the cheap SWC of the Kamau HMG is a major asset for list building.  Having to only pay 2 SWC for double HMGs leaves a lot of room left for other SWC options in the list, including that Heavy Rocket Launcher.

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5 hours ago, Barakiel said:

Are you reading this CB?  Lots of excitement for Varuna... 

WOOO!

I really do like the Minelayer profile for the Croc, and the Kamau HMG model is the main reason I want to get the BOI box (ready for the hate on that one).  I'm glad that you brought up the Croc... as my converter MSR to Combi model has been named @Barakiel since 2016.  I had originally put him in as an FO as I wanted another spec in there, but with the changes I will be making to the list (especially after the new theme is out) I'm sure I won't have a problem.

I really do appreciate everyone throwing in on this, and I'm glad to see others are excited as I am about the Varuna future and it's fun to see what others are looking out for when it's out.

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That's awesome, I remember our conversation about the Croc Sniper.

I don't blame you for wanting the Kamau HMG either.  I definitely split with a buddy to get a second Swiss (now a Hacker) as well as a second Kamau HMG (because the Kamau HMG is awesome.)  Now we just need the rules to use 5 of them :D 

 

 

 

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19 minutes ago, Barakiel said:

Now we just need the rules to use 5 of them :D 

Oh to have a linked team... just what the hacker needed

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Did I miss a rules change that you can't have a named SpecOps and a regular specops EXP build in the same list anymore?

 

Because what *all* the named SpecOps have in their notes is that you cannot choose them to be your starting profile for an EXP build.  You gotta start with the basic Fusilier/Order Sergeant/whatever.

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14 hours ago, Section 9 said:

Did I miss a rules change that you can't have a named SpecOps and a regular specops EXP build in the same list anymore?

 

Because what *all* the named SpecOps have in their notes is that you cannot choose them to be your starting profile for an EXP build.  You gotta start with the basic Fusilier/Order Sergeant/whatever.

Does it say that in the N3 book?  I've only seen the army builder entries where it says "this troop is a special character and cannot use the Spec-Op rules from the campaign rules"

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To clear up confusion, an Army List can include a Spec Ops (using XP to buy stuff) and any available Dire Foes characters. For example an Indigo Spec Ops, Konstantinos and Bipandra. But you can't spend XP on the named Dire Foes characters.

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